Legislature(2017 - 2018)GRUENBERG 120

02/09/2017 03:00 PM STATE AFFAIRS

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*+ HB 91 APOC REGISTRATION FEES; LOBBYIST TAX TELECONFERENCED
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           HB 91-APOC REGISTRATION FEES; LOBBYIST TAX                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:04:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  announced that the first  order of business                                                               
would be HOUSE BILL NO. 91,  "An Act relating to fees for certain                                                               
persons filing  disclosure statements  or other reports  with the                                                               
Alaska  Public   Offices  Commission;   relating  to  a   tax  on                                                               
legislative lobbyists; and providing for an effective date."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:04:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SAM  KITO, Alaska State Legislature,  presented HB                                                               
91, as  prime sponsor.   He stated that  HB 91 would  establish a                                                               
fee  for   candidates,  groups,   and  public   officials  filing                                                               
financial reports, as well as a 2.5 percent tax on lobbyists.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KITO stated that a  couple of years ago the Alaska                                                               
State Legislature  provided additional  receipt authority  to the                                                               
Alaska  Public  Offices  Commission  (APOC) and  directed  it  to                                                               
increase  fees to  address budgetary  shortfalls.   He said  that                                                               
APOC currently has statutory authority  to collect a $250 fee per                                                               
lobbyist  client.   Representative Kito  offered that  since APOC                                                               
has no other way to collect  revenue, he looked for a legislative                                                               
solution.  He mentioned that  he worked with the former executive                                                               
director  of  APOC,  Paul  Dauphinais, to  identify  a  means  to                                                               
increase  program receipts  and  to increase  staffing levels  to                                                               
accommodate lobbying reporting activities.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KITO relayed that  HB 91 would raise approximately                                                               
$425,000 under  the proposed  2.5 percent  tax and  an additional                                                               
$100,000 in  registration fees.   He said that the  revenue would                                                               
support the  $750,000 budget  and allow  APOC to  hire additional                                                               
staff in the lobbyist section  of the organization.  He explained                                                               
that the  reason HB  91 proposes taxes  instead of  an additional                                                               
fee is that increasing the fee  on the lower paying clients would                                                               
be inequitable.  He maintained  that a percentage [of income] tax                                                               
would be graduated based on lobbying fees.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KITO concluded  by saying  that the  goal of  the                                                               
proposed legislation  is to support  the activities of APOC:   to                                                               
ensure   campaigns  and   lobbying   activities  are   adequately                                                               
reviewed; to ensure reports are  audited in a timely fashion; and                                                               
to generate enough resources to  protect the public's interest in                                                               
reporting   lobbying   activities,   campaign   activities,   and                                                               
financial disclosures.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:09:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KNOPP   asked  why  HB  91   proposes  to  reduce                                                               
registration fees if the goal is  to raise revenue.  He mentioned                                                               
that some  of his  campaign staff,  who had  national experience,                                                               
considered Alaska's  APOC reporting requirements to  be among the                                                               
most  stringent in  the  country.   He asked  if  there has  been                                                               
further discussion about APOC reforms.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KITO responded that  the registration fee would be                                                               
eliminated in favor  of the 2.5 percent tax.   He maintained that                                                               
this tax  would double  the amount of  revenue from  lobbyists to                                                               
APOC.    He stated  that  the  drafters  of HB  91  intentionally                                                               
avoided policy  discussions about the operations  and statutes of                                                               
the commission.   He added  that even  though Alaska has  some of                                                               
the most  stringent campaign  finance laws  in the  country, some                                                               
Alaskans support  them.  He emphasized  that the intent of  HB 91                                                               
is to ensure  there is receipt authority  and resources available                                                               
for APOC to do its job.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:12:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BIRCH  asked  if  Representative  Kito  solicited                                                               
comment  from anyone  in the  lobbying community.   He  said that                                                               
looking at the figures, he  estimates that lobbyists are spending                                                               
about $150,000 per legislator.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KITO stated  that  he  had several  conversations                                                               
with members of the lobbying  community after introduction of the                                                               
bill.  He  reported there were no serious concerns.   He added he                                                               
received  a  few  comments  from   lobbyists  who  were  glad  to                                                               
participate  and   help  with  APOC's   fiscal  situation.     He                                                               
emphasized that  the revenue would  not go into the  general fund                                                               
but would go  toward better oversight and reporting by  APOC.  He                                                               
asserted that  when APOC  can conduct  reviews and  audits before                                                               
fines accumulate,  then lobbyists, campaigns, and  the public all                                                               
benefit.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:14:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BIRCH  asked  if   the  comments  were  solicited                                                               
anonymously.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KITO answered he did  not know if those commenting                                                               
wanted anonymity.   He  maintained written  or oral  testimony to                                                               
the committee is certainly welcome.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BIRCH  commented that the issue  could be delicate                                                               
and asked what the cost would be for a candidate.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTAIVE KITO responded that  for candidates and groups, the                                                               
registration  fee  would  be  $100  and  $50  to  file  financial                                                               
disclosures.   He  relayed a  Department of  Administration (DOA)                                                               
suggestion:    for  a  campaign  spanning  two  years,  a  single                                                               
registration  may be  more appropriate.    He said  his staff  is                                                               
working actively with DOA to  identify enhancements to HB 91 that                                                               
will not change the intent of the bill.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:15:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX stated that there  is lobbying and there is                                                               
consulting,  and  since  there  has  been  no  tax  on  lobbyists                                                               
previously, there  would have been  no incentive  to characterize                                                               
one's activities as one  or the other.  She asked  if HB 91 would                                                               
include  consulting activities.   She  questioned whether  income                                                               
from work  done outside of  the capitol building, which  was more                                                               
in the category of strategizing,  might be labeled consulting and                                                               
consequently shielded from HB 91.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KITO  said  that  the APOC  statutes  have  clear                                                               
definitions  for  what  constitutes  the  activity  of  lobbying,                                                               
including the amount  of time in direct  contact with legislators                                                               
and payment for activities  that involve influencing legislators.                                                               
He  asserted that  whether  one  calls oneself  a  lobbyist or  a                                                               
consultant, the  APOC lobbying definition  would still  apply and                                                               
the  category of  people  required to  pay  the registration  fee                                                               
would  not change.    He added  that HB  91  wouldn't change  the                                                               
definitions for lobbying, only the mechanism for paying the fee.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:18:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  asked, "Since  this is a  tax on  only one                                                               
professional category, is  there any thought that  this might run                                                               
into  First Amendment  problems?"   She suggested  that lobbyists                                                               
may  "petition"  their  government,   which  is  considered  free                                                               
speech.   She offered that  because free speech is  a fundamental                                                               
right, it  receives the greatest  amount of scrutiny by  a court.                                                               
She asked if there has been any legal analysis of that aspect.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   KITO   answered   that   his   staff   has   had                                                               
conversations  with  Legislative   Legal  and  Research  Services                                                               
regarding this  concern.  He  said it was  less of an  issue with                                                               
the "lobbying  side" of the  proposed legislation and more  of an                                                               
issue with  the "campaign side."   He offered that with  the $100                                                               
and $50  fees on the  campaign side of the  proposed legislation,                                                               
the  restriction on  speech would  not be  as much  of a  concern                                                               
because campaigns  are already paying  $100 for the brochure.   A                                                               
$100 or  $50 registration  fee does not  constitute a  barrier to                                                               
registration.    Lobbyists  already  pay the  $250  fee,  so  are                                                               
already  paying  to participate  in  their  chosen profession  of                                                               
lobbying.    He said  HB  91  would adjust  the  fee  by using  a                                                               
different mechanism  for collecting  revenue.   He opined  that a                                                               
2.5 percent  tax would not  be a barrier  to any client  hiring a                                                               
lobbyist to come to Juneau to lobby.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:21:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL asked how much  candidates pay now to run for                                                               
office.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KITO  said currently  candidates pay  the Division                                                               
of Elections  (DOE) a $30 filing  fee.  Each candidate  pays $100                                                               
to have his/her information appear in the election pamphlet.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL  offered  that  the $100  for  the  election                                                               
pamphlet was  not mandatory.  He  added one could run  for office                                                               
and not appear in the election pamphlet.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KITO responded yes, but  the $30 filing fee to DOE                                                               
is  mandatory.   He  added  that  the  $30  fee would  cover  DOE                                                               
administrative  costs, and  there  are no  fees  to support  APOC                                                               
activities.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL stated  that currently it costs  a minimum of                                                               
$30  to run  for  office,  and HB  91  would  increase that  cost                                                               
fivefold to $150.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KITO responded that HB  91 would raise the cost by                                                               
$100  per  candidate.   He  said  that  the mandatory  fee  would                                                               
comprise  the  $100 [APOC  registration  fee]  and the  $30  [DOE                                                               
filing fee], and the $100  for inclusion in the election pamphlet                                                               
would be  voluntary.  He said  the cost for groups  would also be                                                               
$100.   He mentioned  there would  be a separate  fee of  $50 for                                                               
filing financial disclosures.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL  offered that the  total cost would  be $180:                                                               
a $30  filing fee;  a $100  registration fee; and  a $50  fee for                                                               
filing financial disclosures.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KITO  said correct.    He  added that  an  exempt                                                               
campaign, one  that does not  raise money, would not  be required                                                               
to pay the registration fee.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:23:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL  asked  if  Representative  Kito  considered                                                               
raising the lobbyist registration fee  but keeping it a flat fee,                                                               
as  opposed  to  charging  a percentage  of  the  revenue  earned                                                               
through lobbying.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KITO responded  yes.  He relayed  his concern that                                                               
if the registration  fee was doubled from $250 to  $500, it would                                                               
create a burden  for those clients who are  paying lesser amounts                                                               
to a  lobbyist.  He  opined that making  the fee a  percentage of                                                               
income allows the clients who pay  less in lobbyist fees to incur                                                               
less of the expense of APOC's fees.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:25:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BIRCH   asked  for   the  number   of  registered                                                               
lobbyists.  He  offered that there are thresholds  for time spent                                                               
meeting with legislators for registered lobbyists.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KITO  responded that  there are  different classes                                                               
of lobbyists  - representational,  volunteer, and  those employed                                                               
by an organization - and  they all count their hours differently.                                                               
He  said  that   MS.  Hebdon  would  be  able   to  provide  that                                                               
information.   He said that  there are classifications  for which                                                               
one doesn't have to register,  but once one receives compensation                                                               
as a lobbyist,  one must register oneself as a  lobbyist and each                                                               
client that one has.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:27:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER  HEBDON,   Executive  Director,  Alaska   Public  Offices                                                               
Commission (APOC), said that based  on registration receipts, she                                                               
estimates  there are  between  450-500  registered lobbyists  per                                                               
year.  She confirmed for  Representative Kreiss-Tomkins that this                                                               
number represents lobbyists who receive payment for services.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BIRCH  referred to Section  9 on  page 4 of  HB 91                                                               
and  noted  that   the  proposed  new  section   of  statute,  AS                                                               
43.98.020, specifies an income tax, not  a fee.  He expressed his                                                               
concern that most boards and  commissions operate on a fee basis,                                                               
and this  would be Alaska's only  income tax.  He  suggested that                                                               
charging $500 per lobbyist would get APOC the needed revenue.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KITO replied  that the  500 registered  "actions"                                                               
are  actually  500  registered  clients.   He  added  that  since                                                               
lobbyists have  multiple clients,  the lobbyists would  be paying                                                               
that fee multiple  times.  He conjectured that there  are not 500                                                               
individual registered lobbyists.   He conceded that  the tax does                                                               
single  out lobbying,  just  as  a tax  on  mining activities  or                                                               
fishing  activities   singles  out  those  industries   to  raise                                                               
revenue.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:30:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KREISS-TOMKINS  requested  clarification  of  the  450-500                                                               
statistic.  He  asked if that number refers to  a discrete number                                                               
of  clients who  have  retained  lobbyists or  to  the number  of                                                               
individuals receiving payment for lobbying services.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HEBDON clarified  that there  are 450-500  registrations for                                                               
lobbyist clients.   She reiterated that  it is not the  number of                                                               
lobbyists, since lobbyists often have more than one client.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  asked how many professional  lobbyists were                                                               
registered with APOC.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEBDON  responded that  she did not  know, but  would provide                                                               
that information to the committee.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:31:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BIRCH  said he  is trying  to get  an idea  of how                                                               
many lobbyists would  be contributing to the 2.5  percent tax and                                                               
what the fee per lobbyist would have  to be in order to yield the                                                               
quarter of a million dollars needed to support APOC activities.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KITO  said that was  one of the options  his staff                                                               
looked at.  He offered the  example of a lobbyist with 10 clients                                                               
- one of  those clients paying $10,000 for  lobbying services and                                                               
another paying  $60,000.  He  attested that if the  lobbyist pays                                                               
$500 in  registration fees  for each of  those clients,  then the                                                               
amount  of money  paid is  not  commensurate with  the amount  of                                                               
money received from  each client.  He said the  lobbyist, in that                                                               
example, would  be taking  a greater portion  out of  the smaller                                                               
client's payment than  the larger client's payment  to cover APOC                                                               
activities.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:33:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX asked  why not  make the  tax a  sales tax                                                               
rather than an income tax.   She offered that "income" - referred                                                               
to in HB 91 - appears to be  net income.   She suggested it would                                                               
be simpler to tax the gross income, rather than the net income.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KITO  replied that  each client pays  the lobbyist                                                               
the contract amount  to do the work.  He  added that the lobbyist                                                               
takes his/her  expenses out of  that contract amount.   He stated                                                               
that the contract  amount, or gross payment, would  be subject to                                                               
the tax under HB 91.  He  offered that taxing net income would be                                                               
a  much more  complicated method  of collecting  revenue, because                                                               
expenses would have to be  identified and the net profit assessed                                                               
for each client.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX read  from Section 9, subsection  (a) of HB                                                               
91, which would  require payment of "a tax of  2.5 percent of the                                                               
person's income earned from lobbying  activities".  She suggested                                                               
that the  language should  instead read "2.5  percent of  the fee                                                               
earned from  each client".   She offered that "fee"  suggests the                                                               
amount   after   expenses  were   deducted   and   may  be   what                                                               
Representative Kito intended.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:36:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CRYSTAL KOENEMAN,  Staff, Representative  Sam Kito,  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, on  behalf of Representative Kito,  prime sponsor of                                                               
HB  91, clarified  that "income,"  in Section  9 of  HB 91,  does                                                               
refer to  the fee,  or gross  amount, paid by  the client  to the                                                               
lobbyist.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:37:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KEN ALPER,  Director, Tax Division, Department  of Revenue (DOR),                                                               
said that  he interprets "income  earned from lobbying"  as being                                                               
broad  enough to  include the  gross income.   He  mentioned that                                                               
some lobbyists are earning fees  and some are salaried employees.                                                               
He suggested that if  Section 9 of HB 91 were  to be reworded, it                                                               
should  include  the  employee  lobbyists  as  well  as  contract                                                               
lobbyists.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX  asked if  "2.5  percent  of the  person's                                                               
income" in  HB 91 means "2.5  percent of the fees  earned, before                                                               
deductions."    She  suggested  that  this  interpretation  would                                                               
differ from the federal income tax code's definition of income.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ALPER responded  that there  is gross  income, and  there is                                                               
taxable  income after  deductions.   He said  although it  is not                                                               
altogether clear, if  he were writing regulations based  on HB 91                                                               
as  currently  written, he  would  interpret  it as  being  gross                                                               
income.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  asked what  the intent of  the bill  was in                                                               
the phrase cited.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KITO  replied that the  intent was to  capture 2.5                                                               
percent  of the  gross client  fee,  and that  was the  direction                                                               
given to Legislative Legal and  Research Services in drafting the                                                               
proposed legislation.   He mentioned that he has  been in contact                                                               
with Ms.  Hebdon regarding employee  or other  non-group entities                                                               
that could be included in HB 91.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:40:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BIRCH referred  to the  section titled,  "Revenue                                                               
Estimate," on  page 2  of the  fiscal note prepared  by DOR.   He                                                               
cited the  approximately $17 million  average total fees  paid to                                                               
lobbyists  for   the  three-year   period,  2013-2015,   and  the                                                               
estimated $425,000 annual revenue that  would be generated by the                                                               
2.5 percent  tax.  He asked  why the estimated revenue  listed in                                                               
the  HB 91  sponsor statement,  which is  $244,150, differs  from                                                               
that on the bill analysis.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KITO responded  that  the  sponsor statement  was                                                               
based  on  information  from  prior years  and  the  fiscal  note                                                               
reflects more recent information.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. KOENEMAN responded that the  fiscal note was prepared by DOR.                                                               
She maintained  that the  initial estimates  were based  on prior                                                               
conversations with Mr. Dauphinais,  the former executive director                                                               
of  APOC,  at  the  time  staff began  working  on  the  proposed                                                               
legislation.  She  asserted that after HB 91  was introduced, DOR                                                               
was  able to  make estimates  based on  "official" numbers.   She                                                               
relayed that  the sponsor  statement will  be updated  to reflect                                                               
the estimates in the fiscal note.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BIRCH  asked  about  APOC's  use  of  the  excess                                                               
revenue.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. KOENEMAN responded  that the intent of the  legislation is to                                                               
offset some  of the  general fund  revenue currently  provided to                                                               
APOC, thus,  making it  more self-sustaining.   She  offered that                                                               
any  additional  revenue  that would  make  APOC  self-sufficient                                                               
would be good for the State of Alaska.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BIRCH expressed his  concern with the large amount                                                               
of money  that would  go to  APOC and said  he still  supports an                                                               
increased fee over a percent tax.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:44:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. ALPER commented that he has  a conflict of interest in regard                                                               
to HB 91, as he is a public  official and would be subject to the                                                               
$50 registration  fee proposed under HB  91.  He stated  that the                                                               
fiscal note  drafted by  DOR was  specific to  the tax  impact of                                                               
Section 9  of the  proposed legislation.   He offered  that since                                                               
the tax would  replace the existing $250  administration fee, the                                                               
net fiscal  impact would not  be a  positive $425,000.   He added                                                               
that perhaps Ms. Hebdon or Ms.  Koeneman could speak to the total                                                               
value of  the reduction of  funds due  to the elimination  of the                                                               
$250 per  client administration  fee.  He  attested that  he does                                                               
not  know  the  source  of  the  data  in  the  original  sponsor                                                               
statement.  He  asserted that when preparing the  fiscal note, he                                                               
used  APOC's lobbying  reports and  its database  of billings  by                                                               
companies to  the lobbyists.   He said  he arrived at  the $16-17                                                               
million figure through that data.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  requested that a reconciliation  of the two                                                               
amounts be done before the next hearing of HB 91.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:46:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSON asked  if consideration  of HB  91, which                                                               
would  levy an  income  tax  on a  special  group  of people,  is                                                               
premature in  light of the  anticipated introduction of  a larger                                                               
income tax bill.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KITO responded  that the  purpose of  the revenue                                                               
raised  through HB  91 is  to  support APOC.   He  opined that  a                                                               
general income tax  would go into the general fund  and would not                                                               
be designated  to specific  components of  state government.   He                                                               
reiterated that  his goal  in introducing  HB 91  was:   to allow                                                               
APOC  to  take  advantage  of  the  receipt  authority  that  the                                                               
legislature  had granted  it; to  provide  additional revenue  to                                                               
replace a  position in Juneau that  was lost to budget  cuts; and                                                               
to make  the reporting and  auditing of lobbying  activities more                                                               
transparent and efficient.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:48:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON asked  if the fee would be  prorated for a                                                               
lobbyist who  did not perform  lobbying activities all  months of                                                               
the year but was employed in another job.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KITO  claimed that APOC currently  requests that a                                                               
lobbyist  who is  an  employee of  an  organization identify  the                                                               
amount of salary he/she receives for lobbying activities.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:49:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL  asked if  the $250 fee  is per  lobbyist and                                                               
not per client.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KITO  answered no,  the current  $250 registration                                                               
fee is per client represented by a lobbyist.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL commented  that  midwives pay  $4,000 for  a                                                               
license.   He offered  that lobbyists are  passing the  fees onto                                                               
their clients.  He restated  Representative Kito's concern that a                                                               
flat  rate  fee  is  inequitable   among  clients  charging  very                                                               
different amounts.   He mentioned  that he is also  interested in                                                               
finding out how many lobbyists are registered in Alaska.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:51:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS asked  Ms. Hebdon to provide  his office the                                                               
number  of  individual  professional  lobbyists  registered  with                                                               
APOC.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:51:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX offered that  there would be no requirement                                                               
for  the revenue  generated through  HB 91  to be  designated for                                                               
APOC.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KITO  responded that  technically that  is correct                                                               
except the candidate fees proposed  under HB 91 would go directly                                                               
to  APOC.   He added  that it  would be  more of  a challenge  to                                                               
ensure the income tax was designated for APOC.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[HB 91 was held over.]                                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 50 ver A 1.31.17.PDF HSTA 2/9/2017 3:00:00 PM
HB 50
HB 50 Sponsor Statement 1.31.17.pdf HSTA 2/9/2017 3:00:00 PM
HB 50
HB 50 Sectional Analysis 1.31.17.pdf HSTA 2/9/2017 3:00:00 PM
HB 50
HB 50 Supporting Documents-ASCE Policy Statement 304 2.7.17.pdf HSTA 2/9/2017 3:00:00 PM
HB 50
HB 50 Supporting Documents-ASCE QBS State Issue Brief Aug 2011 1.31.17.pdf HSTA 2/9/2017 3:00:00 PM
HB 50
HB 50 Supporting Documents-APDC LLC Fly-In Position Statement 11 Feb 2015 1.31.17.pdf HSTA 2/9/2017 3:00:00 PM
HB 50
HB 50 Supporting Documents-Leg Research Report 1.31.17.pdf HSTA 2/9/2017 3:00:00 PM
HB 50
HB 50 Fiscal Note-DOA-DGS 2.3.17.pdf HSTA 2/9/2017 3:00:00 PM
HB 50
HB091 Version A.PDF HSTA 2/9/2017 3:00:00 PM
HB 91
HB091 Sponsor Statement 020217.pdf HSTA 2/9/2017 3:00:00 PM
HB 91
HB091 Sectional Analysis 020217.pdf HSTA 2/9/2017 3:00:00 PM
HB 91
HB091 Supporting Document - APOC Funding.pdf HSTA 2/9/2017 3:00:00 PM
HB 91
HB 091 Fiscal Note DOA 2.6.17.pdf HSTA 2/9/2017 3:00:00 PM
HB 91
HB091 Fiscal Note 2.6.17.pdf HSTA 2/9/2017 3:00:00 PM
HB 91
HB050 Supporting Document Letter 2.8.17.pdf HSTA 2/9/2017 3:00:00 PM
HB 50
HB050 Opposing Document Letter AML 2.9.17.pdf HSTA 2/9/2017 3:00:00 PM
HB 50