Legislature(2015 - 2016)CAPITOL 106

03/24/2015 08:00 AM STATE AFFAIRS

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ HB 77 DISABILITY:ID/LICENSE AND TRAINING RQMTS. TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ HB 142 ESTABLISH ELDERS' DAY TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 142 Out of Committee
*+ HCR 7 CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHCR 7(STA) Out of Committee
+= HJR 14 CALL FOR US COUNTERMAND CONVENTION TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHJR 14(STA) Out of Committee
+= HCR 4 US COUNTERMAND CONVENTION DELEGATES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHCR 4(STA) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
           HJR 14-CALL FOR US COUNTERMAND CONVENTION                                                                        
           HCR 4-US COUNTERMAND CONVENTION DELEGATES                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:17:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR KELLER announced that  the final order of business was                                                               
the combined hearing of:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 14                                                                                                   
Making  application  to the  United  States  Congress to  call  a                                                               
convention of  the states to  propose a countermand  amendment to                                                               
the Constitution of  the United States as provided  under art. V,                                                               
Constitution of  the United States;  and urging  the legislatures                                                               
of the other 49 states to make the same application.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 4                                                                                               
Relating to the  duties of delegates selected  by the legislature                                                               
to  attend  a convention  of  the  states  called under  art.  V,                                                               
Constitution  of the  United States,  to  consider a  countermand                                                               
amendment to the Constitution of  the United States; establishing                                                               
as a joint  committee of the legislature  the Delegate Credential                                                               
Committee and relating to the  duties of the committee; providing                                                               
for  an  oath  for  delegates and  alternates  to  a  countermand                                                               
amendment convention;  providing for a chair  and assistant chair                                                               
of the  state's countermand  amendment delegation;  providing for                                                               
the  duties   of  the  chair   and  assistant   chair;  providing                                                               
instructions  for the  selection of  a convention  president; and                                                               
providing  specific language  for  the  countermand amendment  on                                                               
which  the state's  convention delegates  are  authorized by  the                                                               
legislature to vote to approve.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
[Before the  committee, adopted on  3/19/15 as a work  draft, was                                                               
the proposed  committee substitute (CS)  for HJR 14,  Version 29-                                                               
LS0249\E, Gardner, 2/19/15.]                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:19:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  moved to  adopt the  proposed committee                                                               
substitute  (CS)   for  HCR  4,  Version   29-LS0250\E,  Gardner,                                                               
3/20/15, as work draft.  There  being no objection, Version E was                                                               
before the committee.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:19:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STUART  KRUEGER,  Staff,  Representative Shelley  Hughes,  Alaska                                                               
State Legislature,  presented a  sectional analysis  to HCR  4 on                                                               
behalf  of Representative  Hughes, prime  sponsor.   He said  the                                                               
first  "BE IT  RESOLVED", beginning  on  page 2,  line 26,  would                                                             
authorize the  legislature "to appoint  and summon  delegates for                                                               
the  amendment  convention."   He  said  the "FURTHER  RESOLVED",                                                             
beginning  on  page  2,  line  29,  would  give  the  legislature                                                               
authority  "to  decide the  qualifications  and  total number  of                                                               
delegates  to   send  to  the   Convention,"  and   the  "FURTHER                                                             
RESOLVED",  beginning  on   page  3,  line  1,   would  give  the                                                             
legislature "the ability to add or remove delegates."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. KRUEGER stated that the  "FUTHER RESOLVED", beginning on page                                                             
3,  line  6,  would  provide  "parameters  and  instructions  for                                                               
state's delegates at the Convention."   Further, he noted that it                                                               
would prohibit  delegates from voting for  "any other amendments,                                                               
outside of  the countermand  amendment, at  the Convention."   He                                                               
said the "FURTHER RESOLVED", beginning  on page 3, line 13, would                                                             
reserve  the countermand  amendment  as "the  only amendment  for                                                               
consideration for ratification by  the legislatures."  He relayed                                                               
that the "FURTHER RESOLVED", beginning  on page 3, line 15, would                                                             
-  "upon  a  call  for  convention  by  34  states"  -  call  for                                                               
"establishing  of the  Delegate Credential  Committee within  the                                                               
Alaska Legislature, with  duties listed in Section  A."  Further,                                                               
the Speaker  of the  House would appoint  three members  from the                                                               
House, one being  a minority caucus member, and  the President of                                                               
the Senate would  appoint three members of the  Senate, one being                                                               
a minority caucus member.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. KRUEGER  said the  "FURTHER RESOLVED",  beginning on  page 3,                                                             
line 24, would  provide for a "replacement  procedure for members                                                               
of the  Delegate Credential Committee."   The "FURTHER RESOLVED",                                                             
beginning on page  3, line 26, would allow for  "selection of co-                                                               
chairs  of  the  Delegate   Credential  Committee,"  which  would                                                               
include one  co-chair from  the House, one  from the  Senate, and                                                               
staff.   The "FURTHER  RESOLVED", beginning on  page 3,  line 30,                                                             
would  establish when  the  Delegate  Credential Committee  could                                                               
meet, and  the "FURTHER RESOLVED",  beginning on page 4,  line 1,                                                             
would acknowledge  that the  Delegate Credential  Committee would                                                               
"continue  until the  first  day of  the  Thirtieth Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:22:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KRUEGER stated  that the  "FURTHER  RESOLVED", beginning  on                                                             
page  4,  line 3,  would  request  that the  Delegate  Credential                                                               
Committee be considered for  reestablishment during the Thirtieth                                                               
Alaska  Legislature.    He  pointed out  that  under  Version  E,                                                               
language had been  added such that future  legislatures would not                                                               
be bound by the concurrent resolution.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. KRUEGER  said the "FURTHER  RESOLVED" language,  beginning on                                                             
page  4,  line  [7],  provided for  a  "removal  and  replacement                                                               
procedure  for members  of  the  Delegate Credential  Committee";                                                               
they would be "removed or  replaced by the presiding officer that                                                               
appointed them."   He directed  attention to language  within the                                                               
next "FURTHER  RESOLVED", beginning on  page 4, line  [18], which                                                             
provided  the duties  of the  Delegate  Credential Committee  to:                                                               
decide  matters  by  majority  vote;  function  as  the  official                                                               
facilitator for the legislature;  appoint delegates and provide a                                                               
committee  report  on selected  delegates;  appoint  a chair  and                                                               
assistant  chair;  properly  vet  and  confirm  delegates;  issue                                                               
convention  passes to  delegates; notify  the legislature  of the                                                               
financial  needs at  the Convention;  administer an  oath to  the                                                               
delegates,  alternates,  chair,   and  assistant  chair;  monitor                                                               
activities of  Alaska's delegation;  submit quarterly  reports to                                                               
the legislature on events, progress,  and recommendations for the                                                               
Convention; and recommend removal of  a delegate or alternate for                                                               
approval by the legislature.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KRUEGER  directed attention  to  language  within the  final                                                               
"FURTHER RESOLVED", beginning  on page 6, line  [12], which would                                                             
provide for the duties of  the chair of Alaska's state delegation                                                               
and  the  president  of  the  Convention.   The  chair  would  be                                                               
responsible for:   communicating with other  state delegations to                                                               
open  convention  for  business; identifying  other  legislatures                                                               
that  have approved  a  delegate  resolution; building  consensus                                                               
with at  least 26  state delegations to  require that  each state                                                               
delegation  at the  Convention  has only  one  vote; requiring  a                                                               
simple  majority vote  at all  roll calls;  nominating convention                                                               
officials; requiring a  quorum of 26 states  to conduct business;                                                               
building a  consensus of  at least 26  states to  support sending                                                               
the countermand  amendment for ratification; working  to conclude                                                               
the  Convention in  21  days  or no  longer  than  180 days;  and                                                               
nominating  a  candidate for  president  of  the Convention  from                                                               
Alaska's  delegation  or working  to  elect  a president  from  a                                                               
delegate resolution state.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. KRUEGER further  directed attention to language  on page [8],                                                               
line  [1],  which  listed  the  type of  support  that  would  be                                                               
established for the following duties  of the president:  securing                                                               
a vote for  this delegate resolution to be the  rules of order at                                                               
the  Convention;   focusing  on   the  purpose  of   sending  the                                                               
countermand amendment for ratification  by the states; requesting                                                               
security measures  as needed; overseeing installment  of officers                                                               
at  the  Convention;  establishing convention  agenda;  providing                                                               
equal  time  for floor  discussion  for  all states;  prohibiting                                                               
introduction   of  any   subject  other   than  the   countermand                                                               
amendment;  calling   for  a  vote  for   sending  a  countermand                                                               
amendment to the  states; reporting to 50  state legislatures and                                                               
the  media on  convention  progress;  providing formal  requests,                                                               
when needed, to states for money  that will be needed to carry on                                                               
business; opposing any effort to  delay or modify the countermand                                                               
amendment  vote;  and opposing  any  effort  by states  to  offer                                                               
amendments other than the countermand amendment.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:26:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. KRUEGER said  language beginning on page 10,  line [4], would                                                               
address the duties and  responsibilities of convention delegates,                                                               
which  would   include:    complying  with   directives  in  this                                                               
resolution;  following instructions  of the  chair and  assistant                                                               
chair of Alaska's  delegation; being present to vote  at all roll                                                               
calls;  attending  all  assigned   sessions  at  the  Convention;                                                               
reporting to the  delegation chair the number of  states in favor                                                               
of  the countermand  amendment;  and  recommending strategies  to                                                               
help join 26  states in favor of the countermand  amendment.  The                                                               
language on  page 11, line  [9], would  provide the text  for the                                                               
countermand amendment to the United States Constitution.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR KELLER  noted that [HCR 4] would be  heard also by the                                                               
House  Judiciary   Standing  Committee  and  the   House  Finance                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:28:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  observed  the committee  had  received                                                               
letters from several different legislators,  including one from a                                                               
Senator  in Louisiana  and  a Representative  in  New Mexico,  in                                                               
support of  the legislation.   He asked  what the genesis  of the                                                               
proposed  legislation  was and  whether  it  was supported  by  a                                                               
particular group or organization.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. KRUEGER  indicated that [HCR  4 and  HJR 14] were  brought to                                                               
the bill sponsor  by a constituent, who was the  president of the                                                               
Alaska  section of  a national,  grass-roots organization  called                                                               
Citizen Initiatives.   The  group had  been traveling  across the                                                               
country  to promote  similar  legislation in  other  states.   He                                                               
stated  it  was  important  to  remember that  the  goal  of  the                                                               
proposed legislation  was to limit  [the Convention] to  a single                                                               
issue.  He said there are  other states in the process of hearing                                                               
similar legislation.   He said the executive  director of Citizen                                                               
Initiatives,  Charles Kacprowicz,  had  previously testified  via                                                               
teleconference,  and he  was currently  traveling  from state  to                                                               
state in a motor home.  He  said the concern of those involved in                                                               
this grassroots  effort was  that the  sovereignty of  states had                                                               
been "chipped away over time" and needed to be restored.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR KELLER  said Mr. Coons was the director  of the Alaska                                                               
section  of Citizen  Initiatives  and was  available  on line  to                                                               
testify.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:32:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SHELLEY  HUGHES,  Alaska  State  Legislature,  as                                                               
sponsor, addressed questions that had  been asked.  She explained                                                               
that the aforementioned change made  through Version E, regarding                                                               
not  binding  future legislatures,  was  made  in response  to  a                                                               
concern  raised   by  Representative  Gruenberg  at   a  previous                                                               
meeting.    She confirmed  the  comment  of  her staff  that  the                                                               
legislation was backed  by a grassroots effort,  with neither big                                                               
money nor  big names  associated with  it.  She  said that  was a                                                               
unique  factor.   She  said she  had  spoken with  Representative                                                               
Kreiss-Tomkins about the threshold of  30 states, and she related                                                               
she had read  an article from Gallop, which said  there were more                                                             
"blue"  states than  "red."   She  acknowledged  that that  could                                                               
change,  but  indicated that  the  30-state  threshold was  high,                                                               
considering  there was  only an  18-month window.   Finally,  she                                                               
said there  had also  been concern  expressed about  the possible                                                               
unraveling  of  the U.S.  Constitution;  however,  she said  this                                                               
effort was very specific to protect that from happening.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:34:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HUGHES,  in response to  Representative Gruenberg,                                                               
reviewed  that  if the  U.S.  Constitution  were amended  with  a                                                               
countermand amendment, there  would be an 18-month  window for 30                                                               
states to  agree on  "a specific  item that's  not in  their best                                                               
interest."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG said one issue  had been over the amount                                                               
of  time the  states would  have  for ratification.   He  offered                                                               
further details.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HUGHES, in  response, clarified  that the  window                                                               
did not apply  to ratification, but to  "enacting the mechanism."                                                               
She  said  the  day  before,   State  Senator  Dan  Sullivan  had                                                               
addressed  the  House floor  regarding  federal  issues, and  the                                                               
minority leader brought up two  issues she said she thought could                                                               
be addressed  through a convention:   the Transportation Security                                                               
Administration  (TSA) and  the  Arctic  National Wildlife  Refuge                                                               
(ANWR).                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:38:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STUART THOMPSON  testified in support  of HJR 14  and HCR 4.   He                                                               
posited  the   only  legitimate   objection  to  calling   for  a                                                               
countermand  convention was  that "its  essence" already  existed                                                               
under the Ninth  and Tenth Amendments to the  Constitution of the                                                               
United  States;  however,  he stated  that  those  constitutional                                                               
powers were "castrated by mismanagement  of the slavery issue and                                                               
the desperation of  the Civil War."  Further, he  said the powers                                                               
were  "buried from  view by  anti-constitutional exaggeration  of                                                               
federal powers  through unlimited interpretation" of  the General                                                               
Welfare and  Do and Proper Clauses  under Article II.   He stated                                                               
that  holding a  convention and  passing a  countermand amendment                                                               
would restore  the check  and balance powers  of the  states over                                                               
that of the federal government.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. THOMPSON  opined that  the most serious  problem in  the U.S.                                                               
today was the  "lack of political will by the  American people to                                                               
benefit  from  our  full,  poetical  heritage  in  seeking  life,                                                               
liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."   He stated that most, if                                                               
not  all, of  the  country's  present woes  could  be reduced  or                                                               
eliminated  by applying  that will,  including the  management of                                                               
terrorism  "without suffering  bankruptcy  from continuous  war."                                                               
He said, "This circumstance is  directly traceable to encouraging                                                               
citizen apathy  by perverting  civics education  and increasingly                                                               
using  the methods  of other  forms  of government  to deal  with                                                               
things."  Mr.  Thompson said HB 30 and SCR  1 were "attempting to                                                               
address  this"; however,  he urged  immediate  attention to  "the                                                               
senseless  source   of  political  apathy  enforcement   in  this                                                               
country."   He  warned that  the  U.S. was  becoming "a  has-been                                                               
nation plunging into oblivion," and  he indicated this was caused                                                               
by   federal  overreach   and   bullying   "arising  from   anti-                                                               
constitutional  centralization of  power  enabled  by neglect  of                                                               
duty by the states."  He said this  issue was what the aim of the                                                               
constitutional convention would be.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.   THOMPSON  indicated   that  those   against  the   proposed                                                               
legislation  would argue  that "government  of, for,  and by  the                                                               
people"  did  not  work  in   handling  economic  depression  and                                                               
protecting  people from  threats such  as terrorism.   He  opined                                                               
that Americans had been increasingly  "buying this" for most of a                                                               
century and had  increasingly been suffering from  "the very ills                                                               
the mutating  U.S. Government has  promised to protect  us from."                                                               
He  urged people  to "be  real  human beings  instead of  animals                                                               
begging for protection."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:42:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. THOMPSON concluded his testimony, as follows:                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     As free human  beings, we must face that we  have to be                                                                    
     eternally  on guard  against the  temptation of  giving                                                                    
     government unsupervised trust.   Our founders were very                                                                    
     alive to  this and  constructed our form  of government                                                                    
     accordingly.    We must  defend  their  creation.   I'm                                                                    
     sorry  to  say no  government  in  history ever  really                                                                    
     deserved  even the  trust that  was given.   Government                                                                    
     always  has been  an imperfect  invention of  humanity.                                                                    
     Cooperation  between  those   in  authority  and  those                                                                    
     governed is the  only hope we have, no  matter how hard                                                                    
     it is to do so.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:43:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE COONS,  National Director, Citizens Initiative,  stated that                                                               
his  testimony was  in response  to testimony  given [during  the                                                               
House State  Affairs Standing Committee's 3/19/15  hearing on HJR
14 and HCR 4] by assistant attorney general Michael Schechter.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
VICE  CHAIR KELLER  noted that  Mr. Schechter  was available  via                                                               
teleconference for response.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. COONS  explained that  Mr. Schechter  had made  comments that                                                               
needed to be corrected.   First, he said Mr. Schechter's repeated                                                               
use of the term  "constitutional convention" when referencing the                                                               
states' use  of Article  V was incorrect.   Mr.  Coons emphasized                                                               
that that  use pertained to  an "amendment convention."   He said                                                               
the continued use  of the term constitutional  convention in this                                                               
matter was one  of the reasons that the John  Birch [Society] and                                                               
the [Texas] Eagle Forum had been  so vocal and effective over the                                                               
last 30  years.  He  said the only constitutional  convention was                                                               
in  1787, when  Article  V  was put  into  the Constitution  "for                                                               
purposes of amending  the Constitution either by  Congress or the                                                               
states."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  COONS said  the second  mistake  Mr. Schechter  made was  in                                                               
having stated that Congress had made  use of Article V, 27 times.                                                               
Mr.  Coons  said  the  actual  number was  closer  to  100.    He                                                               
explained the significance  of this was that  the states rejected                                                               
all  but   27  proposed  amendments,  which   was  why  [Citizens                                                               
Initiative]   put  such   an  emphasis   on  "state   legislature                                                               
sovereignty   in  this   process."     Mr.   Coons  offered   his                                                               
understanding that  Mr. Schechter's  third mistake was  in regard                                                               
to limitation of the number of  topics at a convention.  He said,                                                               
"He  talked  about concerns  if  states  can  limit to  a  single                                                               
amendment.   Article V is  about the  right of states  to propose                                                               
amendments; that means one or more."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. COONS said  Mr. Schechter had said this issue  had never been                                                               
acted upon by  the courts or Congress and that  the Department of                                                               
Law  did not  know  how the  question of  a  convention would  be                                                               
received.   Mr. Coons emphasized  that the courts had  nothing to                                                               
do with  the convening  or running  of the  Convention.   He said                                                               
Congress  had  only   three  duties:    to  keep   count  of  the                                                               
applications  per subject  matter; to  convene a  convention upon                                                               
the 34  states making  the same application;  and to  receive and                                                               
send the  proposed amendment for  ratification to the  50 states.                                                               
He added,  "The rest of it  is state sovereignty and  the states'                                                               
rights under Article V."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  COONS indicated  that  Mr.  Schechter had  put  forth as  an                                                               
"equally  valid theory"  that once  called, a  convention created                                                               
its  own rules  and  could consider  whatever  amendments it  may                                                               
choose.  He stated, "This is  why the delegate resolution, HCR 4,                                                               
is so  important.   When 26 or  more states -  a majority  - pass                                                               
this,  along with  the embedded  countermand amendment  language,                                                               
there is  no option for the  several states at the  Convention to                                                               
create its own rules or to bring up other amendments."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:47:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  COONS  opined  that  of   the  two  resolutions  before  the                                                               
committee, the most  important was the one that  would ensure the                                                               
safety and efficiency  of the Convention by requiring  26 or more                                                               
states adopting  the rules for  the Convention prior to  it being                                                               
convened.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:49:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG asked Mr. Coons  if he was familiar with                                                               
the  letter from  Katherine Marshall  [included in  the committee                                                               
packet].  He confirmed that it was an opposition letter.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. COONS stated that he had read all the opposition letters.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  offered  his  understanding  that  the                                                               
quotes included  in the letter  were of a fragment  of statements                                                               
made by  a solicitor  general and a  U.S. Supreme  Court justice,                                                               
and he said he would like to see  the rest of the quotes in order                                                               
to  put them  into context.   He  explained that  he thought  the                                                               
quotes pertained  to things other  than the  proposed countermand                                                               
amendment, but  rather to the  general philosophies of  those who                                                               
spoke them.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HUGHES  agreed to supply the  contextual text from                                                               
which the quotes were extracted.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:52:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  asked whether the sponsor  had any more                                                               
current  opinions about  the  proposed  legislation derived  from                                                               
legal  scholars,  for  example,  as  opposed  to  lay  people  or                                                               
politicians.  He said he would like  to focus on this in the next                                                               
committee of  referral.  He  said he would  like to see  the best                                                               
legal thinking - pro and con - on the subject.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HUGHES said her staff  could do research; however,                                                               
she reminded  Representative Gruenberg  that this effort  had not                                                               
begun until about  last year, so there may not  be much available                                                               
specific to this legislation.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  asked if any states  had passed similar                                                               
measures.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HUGHES offered  her understanding  that currently                                                               
17  states had  sponsors, and  9 of  those states  introduced the                                                               
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:54:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. KRUEGER, in response to  Representative Gruenberg, said North                                                               
Dakota  had passed  its  legislation through  the  House, and  he                                                               
offered his  understanding that it  was currently being  heard in                                                               
its Senate.  In response to a  question, he said he was not aware                                                               
of any specific  countermand amendment law reviews.   He deferred                                                               
to Mr. Coons.  He said  he thought the majority of the opposition                                                               
letters  referred  to prior  efforts  regarding  a convention  of                                                               
states,  a  balanced  budget,  and an  attempt  to  overturn  the                                                               
Citizens   United  decision.     He   explained,  "They   blanket                                                               
legislatures whenever there are  resolutions or bills regarding a                                                               
constitutional  or amendment  convention  being  discussed, so  a                                                               
number of  those are related  to other efforts and  just directed                                                               
toward our legislature in response to these resolutions."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GRUENBERG   added   further   details   to   his                                                               
aforementioned request for information.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:56:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR  KELLER noted that  within the committee packet  was a                                                               
compendium  legislative guide  on  the  Constitution, written  by                                                               
Robert G.  Natelson, whom he said  he had met.   He ventured that                                                               
Mr.  Natelson   would  agree  with   him  that  this   issue  was                                                               
nonpartisan.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:58:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STUTES  moved  to  report CSHCR  4,  Version  29-                                                               
LS0250\E,  Gardner, 3/20/15,  out  of  committee with  individual                                                               
recommendations and  the accompanying fiscal notes.   There being                                                               
no objection,  CSHCR 4(STA) was  reported out of the  House State                                                               
Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:59:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STUTES  moved to  report  CSHJR  14, Version  29-                                                               
LS0249\E,  Gardner, 2/19/15,  out  of  committee with  individual                                                               
recommendations and  the accompanying fiscal notes.   There being                                                               
no objection, CSHJR  14(STA) was reported out of  the House State                                                               
Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                                                     

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
10 HCR4 Draft Proposed Blank CS ver E.pdf HSTA 3/24/2015 8:00:00 AM
HCR 4
01 HB 77 - Bill ver. W.pdf HSTA 3/24/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 77
02 HB 77 Sponsor Statement 2.4.15.docx.pdf HSTA 3/24/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 77
03 HB 77 Sectional Analysis ver. W.pdf HSTA 3/24/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 77
04 HB 77 - Supporting document,Letter Juanita Webb.pdf HSTA 3/24/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 77
05 HB 77 - Supporting Documents, Support Wallbusters Disability Info.pdf HSTA 3/24/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 77
06 HB 77 Supporting Documents-Letter Frank Ron.pdf HSTA 3/24/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 77
07 HB 77 Supporting Documents - Letter Lance Ostnes.pdf HSTA 3/24/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 77
08 HB 77 Supporting Document - How Misunderstanding Disability Leads to Police Violence.pdf HSTA 3/24/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 77
09 HB 77 Supporting documents - 5 Letters of Support-.pdf HSTA 3/24/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 77
10 HB 77 Supporting Documents - Article People with disabilities half of people killed by cops.pdf HSTA 3/24/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 77
11 HB 77 Supporting Documents - Letter Lance Ostnes.pdf HSTA 3/24/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 77
12 HB 77 Supporting Documents-Letter Frank Ron.pdf HSTA 3/24/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 77
13 HB77 Fiscal Note DOA-DMV.pdf HSTA 3/24/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 77
01 HB142 Version W.pdf HSTA 3/24/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 142
02 HB142 Sponsor Statement v.W.pdf HSTA 3/24/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 142
03 HB142 Fiscal Note DOA-GS.pdf HSTA 3/24/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 142
01 HCR7 verA.PDF HSTA 3/24/2015 8:00:00 AM
HCR 7
01a CS HCR7 verH.pdf HSTA 3/24/2015 8:00:00 AM
HCR 7
01b HCR7 Summary of Changes v.A to v.H.pdf HSTA 3/24/2015 8:00:00 AM
HCR 7
02 HCR7 Sponsor Statement.pdf HSTA 3/24/2015 8:00:00 AM
HCR 7
03 HCR7 Supporting Documents- Article Consequences of Child Abuse and Neglect.pdf HSTA 3/24/2015 8:00:00 AM
HCR 7
04 HCR7 Supporting Documents- Website Casashaw Go Blue.pdf HSTA 3/24/2015 8:00:00 AM
HCR 7
05 HCR7 Supporting Documents- Website Providence Hospital.pdf HSTA 3/24/2015 8:00:00 AM
HCR 7
06 HCR7 Supporting Documents- Website US Dept HESS National Child Abuse Prevention Month 2015.pdf HSTA 3/24/2015 8:00:00 AM
HCR 7
07 HCR7-LEG-SESS-03-20-15.pdf HSTA 3/24/2015 8:00:00 AM
HCR 7
14 HB 77- Letter of Support- Denise Daniello- 3-21-15.pdf HSTA 3/24/2015 8:00:00 AM
HB 77