Legislature(2009 - 2010)CAPITOL 106

02/26/2009 08:00 AM STATE AFFAIRS


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
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*+ HB 14 ALASKAN MALAMUTE AS STATE DOG TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 14(STA) Out of Committee
*+ HB 136 PUBLIC RECORDS EXCEPTIONS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
HB 136-PUBLIC RECORDS EXCEPTIONS                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:08:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN  announced that the  last order of business  was HOUSE                                                               
BILL  NO.   136,  "An  Act   limiting  the  release   of  certain                                                               
information concerning certain public employees or officials."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:09:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  moved  to adopt  the  proposed  committee                                                               
substitute  (CS)  for  HB 136,  Version  26-LS0574\R,  Luckhaupt,                                                               
2/25/09, as a work draft.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:09:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON objected for discussion purposes.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:10:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JAY RAMRAS, Alaska  State Legislature, as chair of                                                               
the  House  Judiciary  Standing Committee,  sponsor  of  HB  136,                                                               
talked about the catalyst of the bill.   He said HB 136 is a bill                                                               
intended to  protect officers.   He related an incident  when law                                                               
enforcement  made  arrests  of those  in  a  household  producing                                                               
methamphetamine.   After  that incident,  it was  found that  the                                                               
criminals had  accessed information  about those  law enforcement                                                               
officers, such  as their  names and  addresses, which  meant that                                                               
they also could  access the names of the  schools those officers'                                                               
children  attended.    The  proposed   bill  would  "shade"  that                                                               
information in order to protect the  safety of those who could be                                                               
threatened by criminals obtaining such information.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:12:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DANA  STROMMEN, Staff,  Representative Jay  Ramras, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, explained  that the only  change that would  be made                                                               
through Version R would be  the addition of subsection (d), which                                                               
would remove  the state  recorder's office  in the  Department of                                                               
Natural  Resources  (DNR).   She  explained  that  Representative                                                               
Ramras'  office held  a discussion  with  representatives of  DNR                                                               
regarding  that entity's  use of  public  records and  "receiving                                                               
information  from entities  outside of  state offices,"  and that                                                               
resulted in adding subsection (d).                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:13:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON  removed his objection;  therefore Version                                                               
R was before the committee.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:13:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. STROMMEN  introduced the bill.   She said HB 136  addresses a                                                               
growing concern - not only  throughout Alaska, but throughout the                                                               
United States - regarding the  protection of privacy and personal                                                               
information.    The  proposed legislation  would  provide  safety                                                               
officers and government  officials, as well as  their loved ones,                                                               
the assurance that  their public records cannot  be released upon                                                               
request.  The bill proposes  that the aforementioned officers and                                                               
government  officials be  provided  the opportunity  to file  for                                                               
confidentiality  of the  following information:   name,  address,                                                               
name  associated with  property  records,  and telephone  number.                                                               
That  information would  not be  released  to the  public if  the                                                               
confidentiality  application [example  included in  the committee                                                               
packet] was submitted.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:15:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN asked if that would include the voter database.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.   STROMMEN  responded   that   the   sponsor  is   collecting                                                               
information  regarding what  needs to  be included  in the  bill.                                                               
Notwithstanding  that, she  said,  "But at  this  point, yes,  it                                                               
would  be anything  that the  state has  access to  not releasing                                                               
information."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LYNN  asked how  the  bill  would  affect his  ability  to                                                               
communicate  with "a  constituent  who  may be  in  one of  these                                                               
categories"  either  during  legislative  business  or  during  a                                                               
campaign.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  STROMMEN replied  that the  sponsor is  currently discussing                                                               
that issue with the Department of Law.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN remarked that any member  of the public can buy a copy                                                               
of the voter database for Alaska.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:16:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON asked if  a confidentiality request filled                                                               
out  by a  legislator would  preclude the  Alaska Public  Offices                                                               
Commission  (APOC)  from  releasing  any  information  from  that                                                               
legislator's records to the public.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:17:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JANE  PIERSON, Staff,  Representative  Jay  Ramras, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  said  a  person  who   voluntarily  fills  out  the                                                               
confidentiality  form   would  have  his/her  home   address  and                                                               
telephone number protected.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:17:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PETERSEN  said he  believes that  HB 136  is well-                                                               
intentioned,  and he  concurred  that those  in public  positions                                                               
need  protection.    However,  he said  he  thinks  the  proposed                                                               
legislation  needs  more  development.   He  noted  that  elected                                                               
officials are  on the  list, and  said he may  want to  have them                                                               
removed.  He  explained that the public wants to  know whether or                                                               
not their candidates live in their districts.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LYNN noted  that in  the past,  having only  an opponent's                                                               
post office box  address, he asked the Division  of Elections for                                                               
the opponent's street address and was denied the information.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:19:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON cited  language  in the  bill  on page  1,                                                               
lines 9-12, which read:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     If a public record, such  as an assessor's database, is                                                                    
     compiled  or annotated  by  physical  address or  other                                                                    
     identifying characteristic,  then the name of  a person                                                                    
     who is  eligible for confidentiality under  (b) of this                                                                    
     section   and  has   applied  for   confidentiality  as                                                                    
     provided in (c) of this section, may not be disclosed.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  expressed concern  that it would  not just                                                               
be  the person's  physical address,  but also  the person's  name                                                               
that would not be released.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:20:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.   PIERSON  clarified   that   the   address  and   assessor's                                                               
information would be available, but  not the name associated with                                                               
that information.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN said  it would then be  possible to look at  a list of                                                               
property  descriptions  and know  that  those  without names  are                                                               
properties   of    the   people   trying   to    maintain   their                                                               
confidentiality.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON observed that  through Version R, the state                                                               
recorder's   office    would   be   exempted;    therefore,   the                                                               
municipalities would be asked "to  do exactly the same thing with                                                               
exactly the  same kind of cost  that we're not willing  the state                                                               
to have to undergo."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. PIERSON  confirmed that the municipalities  would be required                                                               
to comply.   She stated her  belief that subsection (d)  was more                                                               
than just  a cost  issue.   She explained that  a huge  amount of                                                               
manpower  would be  required.   She mentioned  Uniform Commercial                                                               
Code (UCC) filings  - another part of law "where  we would end up                                                               
conflicting out."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  noted that the boroughs  record taxes, and                                                               
he stated his understanding that  the state does not maintain the                                                               
tax base.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. PIERSON confirmed that is correct.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:24:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WILSON expressed concern that  if a person were to                                                               
sign   the    confidentiality   application    and   confidential                                                               
information  leaked  accidentally,  that  person  might  sue  the                                                               
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. STROMMEN  indicated the need  to work with the  Department of                                                               
Law to include  language in the request  for confidentiality form                                                               
so that "people aren't held responsible."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:25:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  noted that the bill,  if enacted, would                                                               
become effective in  90 days.  He  echoed Representative Wilson's                                                               
concern   regarding   lawsuits.     He   said   he  also   shares                                                               
Representative  Petersen's remarks  regarding  the importance  of                                                               
making  information about  candidates  available  to the  public.                                                               
Furthermore,  he pointed  out  that the  bill  would protect  the                                                               
prosecution,  not  the  defense,  and he  said  there  have  been                                                               
situations where people have gone  after their lawyers.  He said,                                                               
"This is  a slippery slope situation  here, and I don't  know how                                                               
to deal with it, but I do think  that there are lots of issues in                                                               
this bill that require careful  determination by this committee."                                                               
He  said he  supports  the  intent of  the  bill  to protect  law                                                               
enforcement.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:27:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. PIERSON  noted that HB  136 is  scheduled to come  before the                                                               
House  Judiciary  Standing Committee  next,  and  she stated  her                                                               
belief that  it would  not "escape the  process without  a fiscal                                                               
note."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:27:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   PETERSEN   questioned   whether   the   proposed                                                               
legislation would  work in an age  of computer technology.   In a                                                               
matter  of minutes,  he said,  an individual  can get  almost any                                                               
information about  any one.   He  said it  would be  expensive if                                                               
someone had to develop a  program for a personnel department, and                                                               
it might not actually protect any one in the end.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PIERSON affirmed  that there  are  companies existing  today                                                               
that  will provide  information from  many sources  for a  price.                                                               
She  stated, "And  I  think that's  part of  the  concern is  not                                                               
having  the  first  step  be through  state  records  and  public                                                               
records."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:29:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PIERSON, in  response to  Representative Gatto,  said "site"                                                               
addresses are  not always the easiest  to interpret.  The  use of                                                               
them may or  may not deter criminals.   She said there  is no way                                                               
to totally get  rid of them.   In response to a  comment by Chair                                                               
Lynn, she  acknowledged that it would  be possible for her  to go                                                               
online  to find  out who  lives  anywhere in  Fairbanks, just  by                                                               
accessing the assessor's database.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:31:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WILSON said  she knows  of a  woman who  left her                                                               
partner because of  abuse, moved away, got  an unlisted telephone                                                               
number, and  within a day,  he had found  that number.   She said                                                               
the bill is on a good track, but needs a lot more work.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN indicated  a comparison between the bill  and having a                                                               
lock on a door:  it will deter some, but not others.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:32:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  directed attention  to subsection  (d) and                                                               
asked  if the  Division of  Motor Vehicles  (DMV) would  still be                                                               
included as a public agency.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. PIERSON  characterized DMV as  a "different  hybrid," because                                                               
the agency does not really give  out a lot of public information.                                                               
Notwithstanding that,  she said the  bill would prevent  DMV from                                                               
giving out personal information.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN  clarified that only  those with the  proper authority                                                               
can get that type of information from DMV.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:33:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  commented that  Representative  Wilson                                                               
was touching  upon the need  of victims for confidentiality.   He                                                               
indicated that there  have been similar pieces  of legislation in                                                               
the past.  He said he does not have an answer at present.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:34:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  expressed   concern  regarding  the  zero                                                               
fiscal  note  generated  by  the   Department  of  Public  Safety                                                               
[included in the  committee packet] and the  exemption created in                                                               
subsection (d) of Version  R.  He said he would  like to find out                                                               
whether  the exemption  will create  a zero  fiscal note  for the                                                               
state agencies,  and he said  he would  like an estimate  of what                                                               
the fiscal impact  would be on the boroughs.   He mentioned an e-                                                               
mail  he  just  received  from his  borough  which  relates  that                                                               
entity's  concern  that  the  proposed   bill  could  impact  911                                                               
management  as well  as the  geographic information  system (GIS)                                                               
and borough assessments.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:36:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG   said  he  would  like   to  see  that                                                               
information when it becomes available.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:36:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  STROMMEN,  in response  to  a  question from  Representative                                                               
Petersen, confirmed  that other groups  have been calling  to ask                                                               
to be included  in the bill, and the sponsor  will work with them                                                               
to determine whether or not to add them.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:37:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAMRAS   said  the   bill  would  make   it  more                                                               
difficult, but  not impossible, for  the personal  information of                                                               
those on  the list  to be  found by the  public.   He said  he is                                                               
sensitive  to   the  tendency  to   [add  on  to  a   bill]  like                                                               
[decorating]  a Christmas  tree.   He stated  his interest  is to                                                               
cover those people  who serve as Alaska's first  line of defense,                                                               
so that they  and their families are not targeted.   He expressed                                                               
his desire to have a much narrower application of the bill.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:39:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARTY  McGEE, Assessor,  Municipality  of Anchorage,  said he  is                                                               
convinced  that  "legislation  is  not the  way  to  address  the                                                               
problem."   The only  way to  effectively protect  individuals in                                                               
jeopardy  is to  train them  to  protect their  own identity,  he                                                               
opined.  The  proposed legislation would create a  false sense of                                                               
security when  there are  so many ways  to access  information on                                                               
line.  He said this is  a global problem, and removing a person's                                                               
name from his  assessment list will not provide  him/her with any                                                               
security.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:42:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  McGEE,  in  response  to   a  question  from  Representative                                                               
Gruenberg, said he  thinks the legislature could  help provide or                                                               
fund training so that those targeted could protect themselves.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:43:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PETERSEN  said he agrees with  Mr. McGee's remarks                                                               
about  how much  information is  available on  the Internet.   He                                                               
said he  does not consider  himself Internet savvy, but  was able                                                               
to  find   the  name,  address,  phone   number,  and  employment                                                               
information for  a friend  he had  not seen in  over 30  years in                                                               
less than  10 minutes.   He  said he  wonders if  there may  be a                                                               
better way to  solve the problem of the vulnerability  of some of                                                               
the state's law enforcement officials and public defenders.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:44:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON asked how  Mr. McGee would propose someone                                                               
be trained to take his/her name off a tax roll.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  McGEE said  a person  can put  all his/her  property into  a                                                               
series  a trusts  or  corporations in  order  to protect  his/her                                                               
name.   He added, "The law  requires us in assessment  to reflect                                                               
the  owner  of record,  so,  it  would automatically  secure  the                                                               
problem, in  terms of  the database."   In  response to  a remark                                                               
from  Representative   Johnson  about  the  cost   of  hiring  an                                                               
attorney,  he   noted  that  putting  property   into  trusts  or                                                               
corporations can  be done by  individuals without the  benefit of                                                               
council.  There are publications  available.  He relayed that the                                                               
assessors  offer public  officials  help  in "establishing  their                                                               
state  problems and  other  things  like this,"  so  there is  no                                                               
reason  the  assessors  cannot   offer  those  officials  similar                                                               
counseling  regarding ownership  of  property  and protection  of                                                               
identity.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON offered his  understanding that anyone can                                                               
"go to  state sites" to  find out who  is involved in  trusts and                                                               
corporations;  therefore, he  said legislation  would be  needed,                                                               
even under the  type of scenario which has been  described by Mr.                                                               
McGee, to protect those people with the trusts and corporations.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  McGEE replied  that he  believes there  is way  to not  have                                                               
individuals'  names appear.   He  indicated  that the  assessor's                                                               
office views  a lot of documents  that are a recorded  summary of                                                               
trusts; the  actual trust  documents are not  recorded.   He said                                                               
this is  a problem  encountered daily  by those  who work  in the                                                               
administration of exemption program.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:47:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAMRAS noted  that the  House Judiciary  Standing                                                               
Committee has had  an overview regarding on line  predators.  Law                                                               
enforcement  has begun  to  address the  issue,  even though  the                                                               
problem is  so vast.   He encouraged  the committee to  pursue on                                                               
line protection.  He stated,  "Requesting line officers to go get                                                               
trusts and create corporations  is so extraordinarily cumbersome,                                                               
that  in  my  mind  [it]  is  not  a  realistic  solution."    He                                                               
reiterated  his intent  to provide  initial  safety measures  for                                                               
those who serve to protect the public.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:48:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSON  said he  would  like  to know  how  many                                                               
people the bill may protect.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:49:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SHARON WEDDLETON, Chief Financial  Officer (CFO), Municipality of                                                               
Anchorage,  testified  in  opposition  of  HB  136  as  currently                                                               
written.  She  stated her belief that the intent  of the bill was                                                               
narrow, but the  impact of the bill in its  current form is broad                                                               
to  the  point  where  it  would  be  an  administrative  burden.                                                               
Regarding the zero fiscal note, she  said there would be a fiscal                                                               
impact to the Municipality of Anchorage.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. WEDDLETON  shared examples of  how the bill would  affect the                                                               
municipality.  First,  if a prosecuting attorney  working for the                                                               
Municipality  of Anchorage  pays  the United  Way his/her  annual                                                               
contribution via  a personal check,  that check  includes his/her                                                               
name and address.  The  municipality shares that information with                                                               
United Way when  the money is distributed, but  the proposed bill                                                               
would  make  that  unlawful.    Next,  she  indicated  that  [the                                                               
proposed bill] would prevent the  municipality from being able to                                                               
administer  Consolidated   Omnibus  Budget  Reform   Act  (COBRA)                                                               
benefits for people who have  applied for confidentiality and are                                                               
municipal employees.   The bill  would affect  the administration                                                               
of  health insurance  with a  third-party  administrator and  the                                                               
administration of  health benefits  with pharmacies  and doctors.                                                               
Furthermore, it  would affect the municipality's  ability to work                                                               
with  the State  of  Alaska Public  Employees' Retirement  System                                                               
(PERS), which  requires the municipality to  constantly share the                                                               
names   and   addresses   of   people   who   might   apply   for                                                               
confidentiality.      Moreover,   the   administration   of   the                                                               
municipality's 401 K and 457 plans would be affected.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. WEDDLETON continued offering  examples of the bill's possible                                                               
effects.  She related that when  the levy upon connection roll is                                                               
presented  for assembly  approval, there  are names  and physical                                                               
addresses  on those  rolls that  would  have to  be "scrubbed  by                                                               
comparing them  to the list."   She pointed out that  when people                                                               
who would apply  for confidentiality next apply to  be members of                                                               
public commissions,  their resumes -  which show their  names and                                                               
addresses -  would be subject  to public review by  the assembly.                                                               
Other business of the municipality  that would be affected by the                                                               
bill   include   the   municipality's  stop-loss   program,   its                                                               
enforcement  of  liens,  the  collection  of  unpaid  debts,  the                                                               
sending of  W-2s to the IRS,  and the response to  lenders when a                                                               
person who's replied for confidentiality applies for a mortgage.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WEDDLETON  stated  her  belief  that  HB  136  needs  to  be                                                               
substantially  amended  to  bring  it back  within  its  original                                                               
scope.   She said the list  of examples she gave  is an extremely                                                               
short one; it  would take a few  phone calls to extend  it to 500                                                               
examples  of how  the bill,  in its  current form,  "could change                                                               
municipal practices  at substantial cost."   She warned  that the                                                               
municipality   would  be   exposed  [to   lawsuits]  because   of                                                               
inadvertent  errors.   She  said  she believes  the  bill is  not                                                               
necessary because,  as Mr. McGee  said, a person can  put his/her                                                               
home in  a trust, use  a post office  box, get an  unlisted phone                                                               
number,  and should  be eligible  to receive  training on  how to                                                               
protect  his/her confidentiality.   She  said concurred  with the                                                               
idea that  privacy is  an illusion.   She cited  as an  example a                                                               
check written  at a grocery  store, the information on  which can                                                               
be seen  by "an unlimited number  of people from that  point on."                                                               
Privacy cannot  be ensured through the  proposed legislation, she                                                               
opined.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:54:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. WEDDLETON,  in response to Representative  Johnson, clarified                                                               
that  the municipality  would not  give PERS  information out  to                                                               
just  anybody   who  calls   them.     She  explained   that  the                                                               
municipality is  constantly interacting with entities  outside of                                                               
the Municipality  of Anchorage,  where, for business  reasons, it                                                               
communicates a person's name, address,  and sometimes a telephone                                                               
number.   She  said  the  bill, although  not  its intent,  would                                                               
prohibit  the municipality  from doing  that.   In response  to a                                                               
follow-up  question, she  indicated that  the entities  with whom                                                               
the  municipality   currently  shares   confidential  information                                                               
include health insurance companies and 401 K companies.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:55:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SCOTT JOHNSON, Public Safety  Employees Association, Inc. (PSEA),                                                               
said he  is testifying  as a lifelong  Alaskan, father  of three,                                                               
husband,  and off-duty  policeman.    He stated  that  HB 136  is                                                               
important  to anyone  in  public service  who  has ever  arrested                                                               
someone or  secured them in  jail for committing a  crime against                                                               
society.   That includes,  correctional officers,  judges, police                                                               
officers,  and  district  attorneys,  who  are  all  at  risk  of                                                               
retaliation.  He said this is  a significant problem in the Lower                                                               
48, and he fears it is only a  matter of time before it becomes a                                                               
problem in  Alaska.  He related  that he is currently  an 18-year                                                               
veteran of  Alaska law  enforcement and has  been a  case officer                                                               
for  several  high  profile  cases  where  sexual  predators  and                                                               
murderers have  been sentenced to  a lengthy prison term,  and he                                                               
said he is fearful of retaliation at some point in time.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. JOHNSON  said he is currently  working undercover assignments                                                               
and his unit has investigated,  arrested, charged, and prosecuted                                                               
many serious  offenders.   Most of  those arrests  have concluded                                                               
with the  offender receiving significant  penalties.   Because of                                                               
the nature  of their work, Mr.  Johnson said, the members  of his                                                               
unit go  to great lengths  to conceal their office  location, the                                                               
vehicles they drive,  and - most importantly  - their residential                                                               
addresses.   He  said  there  are times,  such  as  when he  must                                                               
testify in court, when he has  to state his name, and, armed with                                                               
just  that  name,  defendants  can   easily  search  the  borough                                                               
property database and  obtain Mr. Johnson's home  location - even                                                               
going so  far as to  printing out a  map of  the front door.   He                                                               
concurred with  the bill sponsor that  the intent of the  bill is                                                               
to shut down  that one avenue of  access.  He added  that his job                                                               
takes him  away from home  for days at  a time, which  leaves his                                                               
family vulnerable and  unprotected.  He stated that  he thinks HB
136 is  good for  all Alaskans, because  it would  enhance police                                                               
officers'  ability to  effectively perform  their duties  without                                                               
undue concern for the safety of their families and themselves.                                                                  
He said he would appreciate the committee's support for HB 136.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:59:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   SEATON  said   he  wants   to  ensure   that  if                                                               
significant burden is going to  be put on municipalities that the                                                               
effect will  be complete,  and it  will not  be found  later that                                                               
there is a more open data base that is already available.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
[HB 136 was held over.]                                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
01 HSTA - HB 14 Bill.pdf HSTA 2/26/2009 8:00:00 AM
HB 14
02 HSTA - HB 14 Sponsor Statement.pdf HSTA 2/26/2009 8:00:00 AM
HB 14
03 HSTA - HB 14 News Articles.pdf HSTA 2/26/2009 8:00:00 AM
HB 14
04 HSTA - HB 14 Backup.pdf HSTA 2/26/2009 8:00:00 AM
HB 14
05 HSTA - HB 14 Letters of Support.pdf HSTA 2/26/2009 8:00:00 AM
HB 14
HB014-GOV-OMB-2-20-09.pdf HSTA 2/26/2009 8:00:00 AM
HB 14
HSTA - 2-20-09 HB 14 Testimony via email Fred Agree.doc HSTA 2/26/2009 8:00:00 AM
HB 14
HSTA - Amendment A.1 2-23-09 HB 14 25-LS0079-A.1.pdf HSTA 2/26/2009 8:00:00 AM
HB 14
HSTA - Amendment A.2 2-23-09 HB 14 25-LS0079-A.2.pdf HSTA 2/26/2009 8:00:00 AM
HB 14
HB136-DNR-SSD-02-23-09.pdf HSTA 2/26/2009 8:00:00 AM
HB 136
HB136-DPS-DET-02-23-09.pdf HSTA 2/26/2009 8:00:00 AM
HB 136
HSTA - CSHB 136.pdf HSTA 2/26/2009 8:00:00 AM
HB 136
HSTA - HB 136 PSEA Rob Cox Testimony.pdf HSTA 2/26/2009 8:00:00 AM
HB 136