Legislature(1993 - 1994)

02/06/1993 08:00 AM STA

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             HOUSE STATE AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                            
                        February 6, 1993                                       
                            8:00 a.m.                                          
                                                                               
                                                                               
  MEMBERS PRESENT                                                              
                                                                               
  Representative Al Vezey, Chairman                                            
  Representative Gary Davis                                                    
  Representative Fran Ulmer                                                    
  Representative Jerry Sanders                                                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  MEMBERS ABSENT                                                               
                                                                               
  Representative Pete Kott, Vice Chairman                                      
  Representative Harley Olberg                                                 
  Representative Bettye Davis                                                  
                                                                               
                                                                               
  COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                           
                                                                               
  *HJR 24   Relating to the shortage of adequate housing for                   
            military personnel and their dependents, directing                 
            the Alaska Housing Fiance Corporation and certain                  
            municipalities to develop a joint program for                      
            improving the inventory of housing for those                       
            personnel, and urging the governor and the                         
            commissioner of natural resources to identify                      
            state land that might be made available for that                   
            housing.                                                           
                                                                               
            MOVED OUT OF COMMITTEE WITH A DO PASS                              
            RECOMMENDATION                                                     
                                                                               
  HB 43     "An Act relating to Crime of Conspiracy."                          
                                                                               
            MOVED OUT OF COMMITTEE WITH INDIVIDUAL                             
            RECOMMENDATIONS                                                    
                                                                               
  HB 69     "An Act relating to registration of and                            
            information about sex offenders and amending                       
            Alaska Rules of Criminal Procedure 11(c) and                       
            32(b)."                                                            
                                                                               
            CSHB 69 MOVED OUT OF COMMITTEE WITH A DO PASS                      
            RECOMMENDATION                                                     
                                                                               
  HB 36:    "An Act relating to retirement incentive programs                  
            for the public employees' retirement system, the                   
            teachers' retirement system, and certain persons                   
            under the judicial retirement system; and                          
            providing for an effective date."                                  
                                                                               
            HELD IN COMMITTEE FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION                        
                                                                               
  HB 47:    "An Act relating to the delivery of the primary                    
            ballots to persons making application for them                     
            when, by operation of political party rule, two or                 
            more primary ballots must be provided to the                       
            public."                                                           
                                                                               
            HELD IN COMMITTEE FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION                        
                                                                               
  HJR 3:    Proposing amendments to the Constitution of the                    
            State of Alaska limiting tenure in the                             
            legislature.                                                       
                                                                               
            NOT HEARD                                                          
                                                                               
  HJR 4:    Proposing amendments to the Constitution of the                    
            State of Alaska limiting tenure in the                             
            legislature.                                                       
                                                                               
            NOT HEARD                                                          
                                                                               
  HB 17:    "An Act limiting tenure in the legislature."                       
                                                                               
            NOT HEARD                                                          
                                                                               
  (* first public hearing)                                                     
                                                                               
                                                                               
  WITNESS REGISTER                                                             
                                                                               
  Howard Joyce, Legislative Aide to                                            
    Representative Eldon Mulder                                                
  State Capitol, Room 116                                                      
  Juneau, Alaska  99801-1182                                                   
  465-2647                                                                     
  Position Statement: Gave an overview of HJR 24                               
                                                                               
  Charles Mallott                                                              
  Ketchikan Police Department                                                  
  361 Main Street                                                              
  Ketchikan, AK  99901                                                         
  225-6631                                                                     
  Position Statement: Supported HB 69                                          
                                                                               
  Kathy Hankins                                                                
  303 E. Bayview Ave                                                           
  Homer, AK  99603                                                             
  235-7339                                                                     
  Position Statement: Supported HB 69                                          
                                                                               
  Doug Wooliver, Legislative Aide to                                           
    Representative Ramona Barnes                                               
  State Capitol, Room 208                                                      
  Juneau, Alaska  99801-1182                                                   
  465-3438                                                                     
  Position Statement: Discussed registration time for                          
                      offenders                                                
                                                                               
  Gigi Pilcher                                                                 
  Women in Safe Homes                                                          
  P.O. Box 6552                                                                
  Ketchikan, AK  99901                                                         
  225-0202                                                                     
  Position Statement: Supported HB 69                                          
                                                                               
  Bill Elberson                                                                
  Chamber of Commerce                                                          
  2442 Tongass                                                                 
  Ketchikan, AK  99901                                                         
  225-6191                                                                     
  Position Statement: Supported HB 69                                          
                                                                               
  Meredith Marshall, District Attorney                                         
  429 Edmond Street                                                            
  Ketchikan, AK  99901                                                         
  225-3877                                                                     
  Position Statement: Supported HB 69                                          
                                                                               
  Linda Meyers                                                                 
  P.O. Box 131                                                                 
  Homer, AK  99603                                                             
  235-5304                                                                     
  Position Statement: Supported HB 69                                          
                                                                               
  Darlene Morgan                                                               
  427 Alder Street                                                             
  Ketchikan, AK  99901                                                         
  225-4057                                                                     
  Position Statement: Supported HB 69                                          
                                                                               
  Al Meyers                                                                    
  P.O. Box 131                                                                 
  Homer, AK  99603                                                             
  235-7339                                                                     
  Position Statement: Supported HB 69                                          
                                                                               
  Terry Steward                                                                
  427 Alder Street                                                             
  Ketchikan, AK  99901                                                         
  225-4057                                                                     
  Position Statement: Supported HB 69                                          
                                                                               
  Andrea Jacobsen                                                              
  Ketchikan Police Department                                                  
  15 Wood Road                                                                 
  Ketchikan, AK  99901                                                         
  225-5934                                                                     
  Position Statement: Supported HB 69                                          
                                                                               
  John Dempsey                                                                 
  P.O. Box 9156                                                                
  Ketchikan, AK  99901                                                         
  225-8787                                                                     
  Position Statement: Discussed after care of offenders                        
                                                                               
  Dave Chatterton                                                              
  801 W. Winter                                                                
  Wasilla, AK 99754                                                            
  Position Statement: Indiscernible                                            
                                                                               
  Thais Thomas, Teacher                                                        
  Anchorage, AK                                                                
  Position Statement: Supported HB 36                                          
                                                                               
  Gene Smart, Teacher                                                          
  Nikiski, Alaska  99635                                                       
  Position Statement: Supported HB 36                                          
                                                                               
  Patrick Williams                                                             
  Palmer Correctional Center                                                   
  HB 02 Box 7042                                                               
  Palmer, AK  99745                                                            
  745-7137                                                                     
  Position Statement: Supported HB 36                                          
                                                                               
  Bill Munroe                                                                  
  2950 Mariann's Way                                                           
  Wasilla, AK  99654                                                           
  Position Statement: Supported HB 36                                          
                                                                               
  Frank Price                                                                  
  Inland Boatmen's Association                                                 
  Position Statement: Supported HB 36                                          
                                                                               
  Tom Anderson, Legislative Aide to                                            
    Representative Terry Martin                                                
  State Capitol, Room 411                                                      
  Juneau, Alaska  99801-1182                                                   
  465-3783                                                                     
  Position Statement: Gave an overview of HB 47                                
                                                                               
  Chip Thoma                                                                   
  Two Marine Way                                                               
  Juneau, Alaska  9801                                                         
  Position Statement: Indiscernible                                            
                                                                               
  PREVIOUS ACTION                                                              
                                                                               
  BILL:  HJR 24                                                                
  SHORT TITLE:  MILITARY HOUSING SHORTAGE                                      
  BILL VERSION: SCS HJR 24(STA) AM S                                           
  SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) MULDER,Barnes,Foster,Hudson,                   
  Willis,James,Porter,Brown,Toohey,Kott,Bunde,Hanley,Larson;                   
  SENATOR(S) Phillips,Kelly                                                    
  TITLE: Relating to adequate housing for military personnel                   
  and their dependents, directing the Alaska Housing Finance                   
  Corporation and certain municipalities to develop a joint                    
  program for improving the inventory of housing for those                     
  personnel, and urging the governor, the commissioner of                      
  natural resources, and local officials to identify public                    
  land that might be made available for that housing.                          
  JRN-DATE     JRN-PG               ACTION                                     
  02/03/93       212    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  02/03/93       212    (H)   STATE AFFAIRS                                    
  02/03/93       222    (H)   STA WAIVED PUBLIC HEARING                        
                              NOTICE,RULE 23                                   
  02/06/93              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
                                                                               
                                                                               
  BILL:  HB 43                                                                 
  SHORT TITLE: CRIME OF CONSPIRACY                                             
  BILL VERSION:                                                                
  SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) PORTER,Phillips,Olberg,B.Davis                 
  TITLE: "An Act relating to the crime of conspiracy."                         
  JRN-DATE     JRN-PG               ACTION                                     
  01/11/93        35    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/                             
                              REFERRAL(S)                                      
  01/11/93        35    (H)   STATE AFFAIRS, JUDICIARY,                        
                              FINANCE                                          
  01/18/93       102    (H)   COSPONSOR(S): OLBERG                             
  02/02/93              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
  02/02/93              (H)   MINUTE(STA)                                      
  02/03/93       223    (H)   COSPONSOR(S): B.DAVIS                            
  02/04/93              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
                                                                               
                                                                               
  BILL:  HB  69                                                                
  SHORT TITLE: SEX OFFENDER REGISTRATION                                       
  BILL VERSION:                                                                
  SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) BARNES,Ulmer,Phillips,                         
  Nordlund,Porter,Olberg,James,B.Davis,Green, Sanders,Toohey                   
  TITLE: "An Act relating to registration of and information                   
  about sex offenders and amending Alaska Rules of Criminal                    
  Procedure 11(c) and 32(b)."                                                  
  JRN-DATE     JRN-PG               ACTION                                     
  01/15/93        89    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  01/15/93        90    (H)   STATE AFFAIRS, JUDICIARY,                        
                              FINANCE                                          
  01/27/93       169    (H)   COSPONSOR(S): NORDLUND                           
  01/29/93       183    (H)   COSPONSOR(S): PORTER                             
  02/01/93       202    (H)   COSPONSOR(S): OLBERG, JAMES,                     
                              B.DAVIS                                          
  02/02/93              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
  02/02/93              (H)   MINUTE(STA)                                      
  02/03/93       223    (H)   COSPONSOR(S): GREEN, SANDERS,                    
                              TOOHEY                                           
  02/04/93              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
  02/06/93              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
                                                                               
                                                                               
  BILL:  HB 36                                                                 
  SHORT TITLE:  RETIREMENT INCENTIVE PROGRAM                                   
  BILL VERSION:                                                                
  SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) MACKIE,Hudson,Ulmer,B.Davis,                   
  Brice                                                                        
  TITLE: "An Act relating to retirement incentive programs for                 
  the public employees' retirement system, the teachers'                       
  retirement system, and certain persons under the judicial                    
  retirement system; and providing for an effective date."                     
  JRN-DATE     JRN-PG               ACTION                                     
  01/08/93        33    (H)   PREFILE RELEASED                                 
  01/11/93        33    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  01/11/93        33    (H)   STATE AFFAIRS, LABOR &                           
                              COMMERCE, FINANCE                                
  01/28/93              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
  01/28/93              (H)   MINUTE(STA)                                      
  01/28/93              (H)   MINUTE(STA)                                      
  01/29/93       182    (H)   COSPONSOR(S): HUDSON- FIRST                      
                              COSPONSOR                                        
  01/29/93       182    (H)   COSPONSOR(S): B.DAVIS, BRICE                     
  01/30/93              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
  01/30/93              (H)   MINUTE(STA)                                      
  01/30/93              (H)   MINUTE(STA)                                      
  02/02/93              (H)   MINUTE(STA)                                      
  02/04/93              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
  02/06/93              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
                                                                               
                                                                               
  BILL:  HB 47                                                                 
  SHORT TITLE: ABSENTEE BALLOTS - PRIMARY ELECTIONS                            
  BILL VERSION:                                                                
  SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) MARTIN                                         
  TITLE: "An Act relating to the delivery of the primary                       
  ballots to persons making application for them when, by                      
  operation of political party rule, two or more primary                       
  ballots must be provided to the public."                                     
  JRN-DATE     JRN-PG               ACTION                                     
  01/12/93        43    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  01/12/93        43    (H)   STATE AFFAIRS, JUDICIARY,                        
                              FINANCE                                          
  01/28/93              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
  01/30/93              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
  01/30/93              (H)   MINUTE(STA)                                      
  02/04/93              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
  02/06/93              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
                                                                               
                                                                               
  BILL:  HJR 3                                                                 
  SHORT TITLE: LIMITING TERMS OF LEGISLATORS                                   
  BILL VERSION:                                                                
  SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) MARTIN,Kott                                    
  TITLE: Proposing amendments to the Constitution of the State                 
  of Alaska limiting tenure in the legislature.                                
  JRN-DATE     JRN-PG               ACTION                                     
  01/04/93        22    (H)   PREFILE RELEASED                                 
  01/11/93        22    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  01/11/93        22    (H)   STATE AFFAIRS, JUDICIARY,                        
                              FINANCE                                          
  01/26/93              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
  01/26/93              (H)   MINUTE(STA)                                      
  01/26/93              (H)   MINUTE(STA)                                      
  01/26/93              (H)   MINUTE(STA)                                      
  01/26/93              (H)   MINUTE(STA)                                      
  01/30/93              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
  01/30/93              (H)   MINUTE(STA)                                      
  02/06/93              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
                                                                               
                                                                               
  BILL:  HJR 4                                                                 
  SHORT TITLE: LIMITING TERMS OF LEGISLATORS                                   
  BILL VERSION:                                                                
  SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) NORDLUND,Carney                                
  TITLE: Proposing amendments to the Constitution of the State                 
  of Alaska limiting tenure in the legislature.                                
  JRN-DATE     JRN-PG               ACTION                                     
  01/04/93        22    (H)   PREFILE RELEASED                                 
  01/11/93        22    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  01/11/93        22    (H)   STATE AFFAIRS, JUDICIARY,                        
                              FINANCE                                          
  01/22/93       143    (H)   COSPONSOR(S): CARNEY                             
  01/26/93              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
  01/26/93              (H)   MINUTE(STA)                                      
  01/26/93              (H)   MINUTE(STA)                                      
  01/30/93              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
  01/30/93              (H)   MINUTE(STA)                                      
  02/06/93              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
                                                                               
                                                                               
  BILL:  HB 17                                                                 
  SHORT TITLE: LIMITING TERMS OF LEGISLATURE                                   
  BILL VERSION:                                                                
  SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) MARTIN                                         
  TITLE: "An Act limiting tenure in the legislature."                          
  JRN-DATE     JRN-PG               ACTION                                     
  01/04/93        28    (H)   PREFILE RELEASED                                 
  01/11/93        29    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  01/11/93        29    (H)   STATE AFFAIRS, JUDICIARY,                        
                              FINANCE                                          
  01/26/93              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
  01/26/93              (H)   MINUTE(STA)                                      
  01/30/93              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
  01/30/93              (H)   MINUTE(STA)                                      
  02/06/93              (H)   STA AT 08:00 AM CAPITOL 102                      
                                                                               
                                                                               
  ACTION NARRATIVE                                                             
                                                                               
  TAPE 93-13, SIDE A                                                           
  Number 000 -- TAPE BLANK -- MEETING NOT RECORDED                             
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN AL VEZEY called the seventh meeting of the House                    
  State Affairs Committee to order on Saturday, February 6,                    
  1993, at 8:02 a.m., and noted a quorum was present.                          
  HJR 24:  MILITARY HOUSING SHORTAGE                                           
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY stated the meeting was being teleconferenced                  
  to Fairbanks, Anchorage, Soldotna, Mat-Su, Ketchikan and                     
  Sitka.  He read the title of HJR 24 and invited comments.                    
  HOWARD JOYCE, LEGISLATIVE AIDE TO REPRESENTATIVE ELDON                       
  MULDER, PRIME SPONSOR of HJR 24, gave an overview of the                     
  resolution, which required the Alaska Housing Finance                        
  Corporation (AHFC), and certain municipalities to come up                    
  with a solution to the military housing shortage in Alaska.                  
  He advised that HJR 24 had been put together by General Cox,                 
  Commissioner of the Department of Military and Veterans                      
  Affairs, Representative Mulder and Senator Stevens.  He said                 
  that according to Senator Stevens, Anchorage and Fairbanks                   
  did not meet the housing criteria of the Department of                       
  Defense, so there was a chance that Alaskan military bases                   
  could be closed.                                                             
                                                                               
  MR. JOYCE alleged the Base Relocation and Closure Commission                 
  had been formed and would meet soon to begin to review bases                 
  for closure.  Studies in Anchorage and Fairbanks had shown                   
  that approximately 50 percent of off-base military personnel                 
  were unsuitably housed, he said, and the majority of those                   
  were noncommissioned officers and enlisted personnel.  In                    
  Anchorage, a study had shown the market had enough one and                   
  two bedroom housing but not enough three and four bedroom                    
  units, while in Fairbanks, an eight hundred and one housing                  
  unit had been authorized, he disclosed.                                      
                                                                               
  MR. JOYCE added the 801 housing unit was a program where a                   
  private developer constructed housing which would then be                    
  leased to the military for 20-25 year periods.  He disclosed                 
  Ben Lomon Construction had been awarded the contract in                      
  September, 1991, but had been unable to obtain long-term                     
  financing.                                                                   
                                                                               
  MR. JOYCE stated it was the sponsors' intent for the AHFC to                 
  come up with regulations or a plan that would allow private                  
  developers to invest and provide the housing.  He stated                     
  also that Senator Stevens had requested HJR 24 be passed as                  
  soon as possible, because if Alaska wanted the military                      
  bases to remain open, adequate military housing must be                      
  available.                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY summarized HJR 24 for the committee.  He                      
  alleged the Governor worked with the Department of Natural                   
  Resource to "pull this through."                                             
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE GARY DAVIS said, "This creates a condition                    
  that is the bases in Alaska.  We have the mechanism to build                 
  if state decides."                                                           
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY explained HJR 24.                                             
                                                                               
  MR. JOYCE stated HJR 24 was a proposal for showing of                        
  commitment, and suggested striking a word on page 6 and                      
  putting in an amendment.                                                     
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY thanked Mr. Joyce for his testimony.  He                      
  asked if any person wished to testify on HJR 24.  He then                    
  MOTIONED to AMEND.                                                           
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE G. DAVIS MOTIONED to move HJR 24 out of                       
  committee.  Roll was taken and the vote to pass was                          
  unanimously yes.                                                             
  HB 43:  CRIME OF CONSPIRACY                                                  
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked if there was any testimony on HB 43.                    
                                                                               
  Hearing none, REPRESENTATIVE G. DAVIS MOTIONED to move HB 43                 
  out of committee.  Roll was taken and the vote to pass was                   
  unanimously yes.                                                             
  HB 69:  SEX OFFENDER REGISTRATION                                            
                                                                               
  Number 368                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHARLES MALLOT, KETCHIKAN POLICE DEPARTMENT, spoke in                        
  support of HB 69.  He said, "It would be extremely helpful                   
  to us, and I feel the maximum amount of time should be 30                    
  days."                                                                       
                                                                               
  Number 476                                                                   
                                                                               
  KATHY HANKINS spoke in support of HB 69.                                     
                                                                               
  There was further discussion with Doug Wooliver,                             
  Representative Ulmer, Chairman Vezey, and Ms. Hankins                        
  regarding the length of time records would be kept on file.                  
                                                                               
  MS. HANKINS felt the concern was on days.  She supported the                 
  idea to lessen the time to two weeks to register and payment                 
  of the registration fees by offenders.                                       
                                                                               
  DOUG WOOLIVER, LEGISLATIVE AIDE TO RAMONA BARNES, PRIME                      
  SPONSOR of HB 69, discussed the time for offenders to                        
  register.  Shorten time frame, like the state of Washington,                 
  upon release to 10 days after.  Shorten up those times to                    
  register.                                                                    
                                                                               
  GIGI PILCHER spoke in favor of HB 69.  She shared concern                    
  about out-of-state offenders, and felt the time change to be                 
  lowered for out-of-state offenders.  She said, "What is the                  
  point of HB 69 without a prosecutor?  They cannot get cases                  
  prosecuted because there is no budget in Ketchikan."                         
                                                                               
  BILL ELBERSON, KETCHIKAN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, spoke in favor                 
  of HB 69.  He asked to stop the violence on women and                        
  children of Ketchikan and said, "They deserve the freedom of                 
  unreasonable fear.  This freedom is not possible with sex                    
  offenders out."                                                              
                                                                               
  Number 538                                                                   
                                                                               
  MEREDITH MARSHALL, KETCHIKAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY, said                         
  Ketchikan had only two district attorneys' and they needed                   
  more support.                                                                
                                                                               
  Number 558                                                                   
                                                                               
  LINDA MEYERS spoke in support of HB 69.  She said, "Assist                   
  our law enforcement agencies.  Offenders should pay to                       
  register.  It would remind criminals how serious this is."                   
  She requested more money for the Department of Law, and                      
  stated 45 days was too long and 30 days maximum to register                  
  was more appropriate.                                                        
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY discussed registration.  He suggested                         
  providing a system of registration adopted by other states,                  
  and stated that we needed to be careful of this adoption.                    
                                                                               
  Number 601                                                                   
                                                                               
  DARLENE MORGAN spoke in support of HB 69.                                    
                                                                               
  AL MEYERS spoke in support of HB 69 and requested funding                    
  for the Department of Law.                                                   
                                                                               
  TERRY STEWARD spoke in support of HB 69.  He said, "As a                     
  concerned citizen for registration, I think we should code                   
  drivers licenses for law to know if stopped."                                
                                                                               
  ANDREA JACOBSEN spoke in support of HB 69.  She said, "There                 
  is no limit to registration.  There is no cure for this                      
  deviance.  Information and a photograph should be known to                   
  the public.  The time limit should be decreased.                             
  Convictions should not have this long of a time factor in                    
  order to register as a sex offender."                                        
                                                                               
  JOHN DEMPSEY who worked with sex offenders for nine years                    
  discussed after care for the improvement of the offender.                    
                                                                               
  MS. MARSHALL spoke in support of HB 69.                                      
                                                                               
  TAPE 93-13, SIDE B                                                           
  Number 000                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE FRAN ULMER made a MOTION to ADOPT CSHB 69.                    
  Passed out on 4-0 vote to Judiciary Committee.                               
                                                                               
  HB 36:  RETIREMENT INCENTIVE PROGRAM                                         
                                                                               
  DAVE CHATTERTON said HB 36 resulted in millions of dollars                   
  being saved in previous years.                                               
                                                                               
  THAIS THOMAS, a teacher, said, "I won't be able to                           
  participate, but I am speaking on behalf of my friends.                      
  There are people who have put in a lot of years teaching.                    
  HB 36 provides the possibility to enhance their options to                   
  make choices."                                                               
                                                                               
  Number 678                                                                   
                                                                               
  GENE SMART, NIKISKI TEACHER, provided information obtained                   
  from an audit report.  RIP program 82 saved 2 million in 89,                 
  saved almost 2 million.  Section 2 part B of bill 93-94, was                 
  a shortfall of the budget.  We have no money to hire                         
  additional teachers.  I quote "No teaching positions,"                       
  inabilities.  Pretty scary, when $46,000 out of the                          
  equipment.  Two teacher positions will be cut.  Affording                    
  one for each five budget teachers.  All be in favor of HB
  36.  Last Saturday's excerpt, Terry Martin said it was a                     
  brain drain.  First and second year teachers may lose their                  
  jobs.  It will save our district lots of money.  University                  
  of Alaska's alumni supported, instead of seeing graduates go                 
  elsewhere, they'll have incentive to stay in our state and                   
  teach.                                                                       
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY encouraged written testimony.                                 
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE G. DAVIS asked, "Do you have the number of                    
  who is eligible for RIP this year, should it pass?"                          
                                                                               
  MR. SMART replied "Around 50-80 teachers."                                   
                                                                               
  PATRICK WILLIAMS, PALMER CORRECTIONAL CENTER, spoke in                       
  support of HB 36.  He said, "This will help alleviate                        
  burnout which creates inefficiency."                                         
                                                                               
  BILL MUNROE who was representing 100 employees, stated HB 36                 
  would save a great deal of money, and the money could be                     
  used to hire new teachers.                                                   
                                                                               
  FRANK PRICE, testified on behalf of INLAND BOATMEN'S                         
  ASSOCIATION, which represents unlicensed crewmen of the                      
  Alaska Marine Highway, in favor of HB 36.  He said, "If the                  
  bill passed everyone will not be able to use it.  We can                     
  only use it to save money.  Why not pass it if it can only                   
  save money?"                                                                 
                                                                               
  Number 347                                                                   
  HB 47:  ABSENTEE BALLOTS -- PRIMARY ELECTIONS                                
                                                                               
  Number 357                                                                   
                                                                               
  TOM ANDERSON, LEGISLATIVE AIDE TO REPRESENTATIVE TERRY                       
  MARTIN, PRIME SPONSOR of HB 47 said, "We found constituents                  
  did not receive the right ballots."  He referenced the                       
  decision on Zawacki vs. State.  He stated Representative                     
  Martin opted to change the law, but those not choosing open                  
  ballots were disenfranchised because they still received the                 
  open ballot (wanted closed Republican, but was sent an open                  
  ballot).  He said, "A person who does not signify gets all                   
  the ballots allowed by party by-laws.  Example:  Democrats                   
  will not be sent Republican ballot.  It is a felony if both                  
  ballots be sent back, even if unused."                                       
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE ULMER asked "Where is the section that says                   
  it is a felony to mark both ballots?"                                        
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY, "I do not recall it to be a felony."                         
                                                                               
  MR. ANDERSON, "I do believe it to be a felony though.  I                     
  will inquire with legal services."                                           
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE ULMER, "I just wonder about confusion, if not                 
  fraud.  I would like info on this, therefore, I have                         
  questions concerning how it works."                                          
                                                                               
  Number 455                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY added if republican party said others could                   
  not vote in their primary, or if included republican party                   
  candidates.                                                                  
                                                                               
  MR. ANDERSON, "If they did not mark the desired ballot, they                 
  (and Republican) would receive all allowable ballots.  At                    
  present, this is not the case."                                              
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY, "Don't refer to Democrat ballot as other                     
  ballot."                                                                     
                                                                               
  Number 525                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHIP TOMA, a former employee of the Division of Elections,                   
  said, "Let elections devise a plan for this.  Save expense.                  
  You are confusing the issue with this.  Situations do work                   
  themselves out."                                                             
                                                                               
  ADJOURNMENT                                                                  
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY, with no further comments on terms limit                      
  bill, stated a proposal was being drafted.  He then                          
  adjourned the meeting at 9:29 a.m.                                           

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