Legislature(2021 - 2022)BARNES 124

04/14/2021 01:00 PM RESOURCES

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 26 CONFLICT OF INTEREST: BD FISHERIES/GAME TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 26 Out of Committee
+= HB 98 FOREST LAND USE PLANS; TIMBER SALES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
         HB 26-CONFLICT OF INTEREST: BD FISHERIES/GAME                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:06:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PATKOTAK announced  that the first order  of business would                                                               
be  HOUSE BILL  NO.  26,  "An Act  relating  to participation  in                                                               
matters before  the Board of Fisheries  and the Board of  Game by                                                               
the  members  of the  respective  boards;  and providing  for  an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:07:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GERAN  TARR, Alaska State Legislature,  noted that                                                               
the HB 26 allows conflicted  board members to deliberate, but not                                                               
vote,  on issues  in the  interest of  transparency of  the board                                                               
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:08:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS said  that in  considering this  potential                                                               
legislation  he reflected  on the  role of  legislative committee                                                               
members.   He said that he  believes that it's important  to have                                                               
informed input on issues as a matter of public record.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:09:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CRONK said that he remains  confused by HB 26.  He                                                               
related an  experience of hearing  testimony against  someone who                                                               
had  a perceived  conflict of  interest,  and opined  that HB  26                                                               
"actually  favors a  member testifying,"  characterizing it  as a                                                               
"mixed message."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:10:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER referred to  Amendment 1, which failed to                                                               
be adopted by the committee,  and stated his belief that Resident                                                               
Hunters  of Alaska  (RHAK) "didn't  really  care one  way or  the                                                               
other  about  the amendment."    He  then  opined that  there  is                                                               
varying support for HB 26 and  expressed his belief that HB 26 is                                                               
a Board  of Fisheries bill  and should  not include the  Board of                                                               
Game.     He  stated   that  he   cannot  support   the  proposed                                                               
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:12:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  PATKOTAK  discussed  referencing the  official  record  of                                                               
actions by a board when considering actions in the future.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:14:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GLENN HAIGHT,  Executive Director II, Board  of Fisheries, Boards                                                               
Support  Section,  Alaska  Department  of Fish  &  Game  (ADF&G),                                                               
explained   that,  while   boards   will   typically  engage   in                                                               
deliberations and  pass proposals  or regulations which  are very                                                               
clear  and with  specific  language, there  are occasions  during                                                               
which deliberations are viewed as  litigation.  He expressed that                                                               
it was  unclear to him  how HB  26 would impact  consideration of                                                               
previous deliberations.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PATKOTAK  asked, "The benefit  of having  those discussions                                                               
and the ability  for somebody who might be conceived  as having a                                                               
conflict to  have that discussion  and provide that input  on the                                                               
record  isn't going  to  necessarily affect  the  outcome of  the                                                               
vote?"                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HAIGHT  responded, "It's  hard  to  speculate what  a  board                                                               
member might  glean from an  informal conversation with  a member                                                               
who's been recused." He noted  that the information would be more                                                               
clearly on  the record if  the conflicted individual  was present                                                               
to deliberate.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:16:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CRONK opined that there  is nothing wrong with the                                                               
system currently in place.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:17:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TARR expressed  her belief that the  benefit of HB
26 would be improved transparency  by having deliberations on the                                                               
record.     She   said  that   she   understands  the   differing                                                               
perspectives  affecting the  Board of  Game versus  the Board  of                                                               
Fisheries,  but those  boards are  allocating  a common  property                                                               
resource, and  having the same  administration is the  reason why                                                               
they are both included in this proposed legislation.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:18:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOPKINS  moved to  report HB  26 out  of committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  fiscal                                                               
notes.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:19:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVES CRONK and RAUSCHER objected.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:19:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR PATKOTAK  invited either  Representative Cronk  or Rauscher                                                               
to speak to their objection.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:19:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAUSCHER reiterated his earlier remarks.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:19:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll  call vote  was taken.   Representatives  Fields, Hopkins,                                                               
Hannan,  Schrage,  and   Patkotak  voted  in  favor   of  HB  26.                                                               
Representatives  McKay,   Cronk,  Rauscher,  and   Gillham  voted                                                               
against  it.   Therefore, HB  26 was  reported out  of the  House                                                               
Resources Standing Committee by a vote of 5-4.                                                                                  

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 98 Support DNR Timber Sales Briefing Paper 2.11.2021.pdf HRES 3/12/2021 1:00:00 PM
HRES 4/14/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 98
HB 98 Sponsor Statement 2.11.2021.pdf HRES 3/12/2021 1:00:00 PM
HRES 4/14/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 98
HB 98 Sectional Analysis Version A 2.23.2021.pdf HRES 3/12/2021 1:00:00 PM
HRES 4/14/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 98
HB 98 Presentation to HRES 3.12.2021.pdf HRES 3/12/2021 1:00:00 PM
HRES 4/14/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 98
HB 98 Letter of Support Northland Wood Products 3.12.2021.pdf HRES 3/12/2021 1:00:00 PM
HRES 4/14/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 98
HB 98 HRES DNR Follow-Up from 3.12.2021.pdf HRES 4/14/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 98
HB 98 Support DOF Timber Sales and Appeals and Outcomes 4.14.2021.pdf HRES 4/14/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 98
HB 98 Support DNR Summary of Appeals 4.14.2021.pdf HRES 4/14/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 98
HB 98 Support DNR Timber Sales Briefing Paper 2.11.2021.pdf HRES 4/14/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 98
HB 98 Support One-Pager Timber Sales FLUPS 4.14.2021.pdf HRES 4/14/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 98
HB 98 Letter of Support Aurora Energy Solutions 4.14.2021.pdf HRES 4/14/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 98
HB 26 Letter AK Outdoor Council 4.14.2021.pdf HRES 4/14/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 26
HB 98 Draft Intent Language Rep. Rauscher 4.14.2021.pdf HRES 4/14/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 98
HB 98 Commercial and Personal Use Timber Sales FY 16 to FY 20 Rep. Hopkins 4.14.2021.pdf HRES 4/14/2021 1:00:00 PM
HB 98