Legislature(2019 - 2020)BARNES 124

04/29/2019 01:00 PM RESOURCES

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           HB 138-NATIONAL RESOURCE WATER DESIGNATION                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:13:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR TARR  announced that the  final order of  business would                                                               
be  HOUSE BILL  NO. 138,  "An  Act requiring  the designation  of                                                               
state water  as outstanding national  resource water to  occur in                                                               
statute; relating to management  of outstanding national resource                                                               
water  by  the  Department  of  Environmental  Conservation;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:13:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 2:13 p.m. to 2:15 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:15:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CHUCK KOPP,  Alaska  State Legislature,  sponsor,                                                               
introduced HB 138.  He testified  the bill would clarify that the                                                               
designation of  Outstanding National Resource Waters,  also known                                                               
as  designated  Tier  3  waters, would  be  accomplished  by  the                                                               
legislature  through statute.   He  said the  Alaska constitution                                                               
places  the responsibility  for  significant land  and water  use                                                               
decisions in the hands of the  legislature.  He read from Article                                                               
VIII  of  the constitution,  Section  7,  Special Purpose  Sites,                                                               
which states:   "The legislature may provide  for the acquisition                                                               
of sites,  objects, and areas  of natural beauty or  of historic,                                                               
cultural,  recreational, or  scientific  value.   It may  reserve                                                               
them from the public domain  and provide for their administration                                                               
and  preservation for  the  use, enjoyment,  and  welfare of  the                                                               
people."   He  also read  from Article  VIII, Section  2, General                                                               
Authority, which states:  "The  legislature shall provide for the                                                               
utilization,  development,   and  conservation  of   all  natural                                                               
resources belonging to the State,  including land and waters, for                                                               
the maximum benefit of its people."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOPP  said a good  example of  this constitutional                                                               
mandate  in practice  is the  118 state  legislatively designated                                                               
areas in  Alaska, which  includes refuges,  sanctuaries, critical                                                               
habitat   areas,  special   management  areas,   forests,  parks,                                                               
recreation  areas,   preserves,  public  use   areas,  recreation                                                               
rivers,  and  recreation  mining  areas, which  total  nearly  12                                                               
million acres.   Each of  these areas, he stated,  was designated                                                               
by  legislative  approval,  not   an  agency  executive  approval                                                               
process.   He said  Alaska's voters have  clearly spoken  on what                                                               
they  believe the  ultimate  authority should  be  with land  and                                                               
water  use  designation process.    This  was  seen in  2014,  he                                                               
specified,  when   voters  approved   the  Bristol   Bay  Forever                                                               
Initiative by a margin of  nearly 4:1, which gave the legislature                                                               
the final say in whether to  allow the development of large scale                                                               
mining projects  in the Bristol Bay  Area.  He said  HB 138 would                                                               
simply  continue this  strong precedent  of ensuring  significant                                                               
land  and water  use decisions,  in  this case  Tier 3  waterbody                                                               
designation, resides in the hands of the legislature.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOPP  stated that  Tier 3 designation  bestows the                                                               
highest  level  of water  quality  protection  under the  federal                                                               
Clean Water Act    such waters are deemed  the highest ecological                                                               
and  recreational  importance.    He related  that  in  1983  the                                                               
Environmental Protection  Agency (EPA)  defined Tier 3  waters to                                                               
be exceptional ecological and  recreational significance and that                                                               
their water quality be maintained  and protected from degradation                                                               
in perpetuity.  He said the  EPA further mandated that each state                                                               
establish a  process for  designating these  Outstanding National                                                               
Resource Waters.   Alaska  doesn't currently  have a  process, he                                                               
continued, and the  EPA has asked the state to  identify a formal                                                               
process  for designating  Outstanding  National Resource  Waters.                                                               
He said this puts the state  at risk of violating the Clean Water                                                               
Act and  opens up the  possibility for  the EPA imposing  its own                                                               
designation  process, which  it has  no  interest in  doing.   He                                                               
related  that   in  a  2018   letter  to  former   Department  of                                                               
Environmental Conservation  (DEC) commissioner Larry  Hartig, the                                                               
EPA wrote it  supports Alaska's efforts to  develop a designation                                                               
process and that it has no interest in doing that for the state.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOPP  stated that  defining a  designation process                                                               
would provide conservationists and  developers alike a measure of                                                               
certainty in  how to go about  this designation.  He  said HB 138                                                               
would solve  this problem by  codifying in statute  a designation                                                               
process that is  consistent with how lands and  waters across the                                                               
state  would  be  designated   for  conservation  by  legislative                                                               
approval  rather than  by department  or agency  decision.   This                                                               
designation  is  an  important  tool  for  protecting  human  and                                                               
environmental  health,  he continued.    He  maintained it  is  a                                                               
significant  policy decision  because  it would  restrict a  wide                                                               
range of activities  on state waterbodies as well  as on adjacent                                                               
lands   that  have   waters  flowing   across  them   into  those                                                               
waterbodies.   He said large-scale resource  development projects                                                               
located near  Tier 3  watersheds would  therefore be  impacted by                                                               
Tier 3 designation  and so would road  and building construction,                                                               
motorboats,   recreational    activities,   seafood   processing,                                                               
municipal  wastewater   discharge,  residential   and  commercial                                                               
septic   systems,  storm   water  discharge,   landfills,  timber                                                               
harvesting, and gravel quarries.   He opined that such widespread                                                               
impacts effectively make  Tier 3 designation a de  facto land use                                                               
decision and  as such the  final decision for Tier  3 designation                                                               
properly resides  in the hands  of the legislature, which  HB 138                                                               
would do.  He further opined  that HB 138 would provide certainty                                                               
for  conservationists and  developers  alike  on the  designation                                                               
process of Outstanding National  Resource Waters.  Representative                                                               
Kopp said the  bill isn't lengthy, it just says  that this should                                                               
be done in statute by the legislature.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:22:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TUCK remarked that it  is unknown what the statute                                                               
is going to be.   He therefore asked why not come  up with a bill                                                               
that defines the process because, then, "boom, we're done."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOPP  replied that the  logical outflow of  HB 138                                                               
is that  the administration  would still  have a  duty as  DEC to                                                               
document petitions  brought forward  for Tier 3  designations and                                                               
the  legislature  would know  about  it  when the  administration                                                               
brings forth  a bill  that would  be introduced  by the  House or                                                               
Senate rules committees by request of  the governor.  That is how                                                               
those  are done  now, he  continued, so  the question  would come                                                               
before that body  in a manner in which the  body is accustomed to                                                               
seeing it.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TUCK  offered his understanding that  a process is                                                               
not being  defined, it is just  being said that the  procedure is                                                               
to follow  the bill when  the designation of  a body of  water or                                                               
river is wanted.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOPP   responded  yes,   file  a  bill   and  get                                                               
legislative approval.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:24:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN  asked whether  the governor  could already                                                               
do that.   She further asked whether this governor  or a previous                                                               
governor  has done  that with  any  of the  five nominations  for                                                               
[Tier 3 designation].                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOPP answered that  the five currently outstanding                                                               
requests may  go as  far back  as Governor  Parnell.   He related                                                               
that  former DEC  commissioner Larry  Hartig  wrote two  separate                                                               
memos,  one to  DEC  and one  to the  legislature,  in which  the                                                               
commissioner   recommended  an   approval  process   where  these                                                               
decisions were  made by  the legislature.   He  said Commissioner                                                               
Hartig  further stated  in  the  memo that  until  a process  was                                                               
established  the commissioner  did not  feel the  state was  in a                                                               
position to  show it was  complying with the federal  Clean Water                                                               
Act as having a way to resolve these Tier 3 designations.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN  inquired as to why  [DEC] hadn't forwarded                                                               
the nomination  of the Koktuli  [River] [located in  Bristol Bay]                                                               
for Tier 3 designation given it has been pending for 10 years.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOPP replied  it  is because  this  bill has  not                                                               
passed  yet.   He  said  Governor Walker  filed  Senate Bill  163                                                               
[Twenty-Ninth Alaska  State Legislature],  but it didn't  pass so                                                               
now he is continuing that.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HANNAN  asked how  many states have  a designation                                                               
process and  how many have  it limited to strictly  a legislative                                                               
decision, as opposed  to a hybrid of the Board  of Water making a                                                               
recommendation and then the legislature acting on it.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOPP deferred  to DEC.  He said there  is a mix of                                                               
statute, board  or commission, or executive  agency decision, but                                                               
he doesn't know how those are broken down.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:26:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EARL CRAPPS,  Section Manager, Division  of Water,  Department of                                                               
Environmental   Conservation   (DEC),   answered   Representative                                                               
Hannan's  question.   He  said the  division  doesn't have  those                                                               
broken  down, but  does have  a  summary of  the different  state                                                               
processes.    He  explained  that   the  process  itself  is  not                                                               
specified  via  federal  regulation;  it  is  up  to  each  state                                                               
individually to determine that process.   He said each state does                                                               
it differently - some are  legislative, some are through a board,                                                               
and some  are a specific agency  within the state that  makes the                                                               
designation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HANNAN  inquired  whether  there  are  any  other                                                               
states  where that  decision is  exclusively legislature  with no                                                               
other board or department process preceding that.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CRAPPS replied  he would  research it  and get  back to  the                                                               
committee with an answer.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:28:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  TARR  stated  she  would  be  interested  in  receiving                                                               
documentation from Mr. Crapps.   She noted she has some documents                                                               
regarding some  western states.   For example, she  said, Arizona                                                               
has  processing  criteria and  regulations,  Nevada  is a  little                                                               
different, New  Mexico is  in regulation,  and Oregon  is policy-                                                               
processing   criteria   combined   in   anti-degradation   policy                                                               
regulation.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:28:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SPOHNHOLZ  asked what the  EPA considers to  be an                                                               
adequate definition to  meet the Clean Water Act  standards.  She                                                               
further asked whether having it in regulation is enough.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. CRAPPS  responded that  the EPA  does not  specify.   He said                                                               
[Alaska]  currently  has  in  place  a  policy  that  says  these                                                               
nominations are  to be taken  to the legislature  for designation                                                               
and the  EPA has indicated that  this policy is adequate  to meet                                                               
an interpretation of the Clean Water Act.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SPOHNHOLZ concluded  Mr.  Crapps  is saying  that                                                               
[the State  of Alaska] already  has something in  regulation that                                                               
meets  the definition  of the  EPA's criteria  to meet  the Clean                                                               
Water Act standards.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. CRAPPS answered correct and  said last year [DEC] promulgated                                                               
air degradation  regulations and  also posted  [the department's]                                                               
policy  for Tier  3, which  indicates that  these nominations  be                                                               
taken to the  legislature.  The EPA, he  continued, has indicated                                                               
that that is acceptable.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SPOHNHOLZ asked  whether  there has  ever been  a                                                               
Tier 3 waterway designation in the state of Alaska.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. CRAPPS replied no, not to this day.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SPOHNHOLZ offered  her  understanding that  there                                                               
are  currently five  nominations on  the books,  but so  far, the                                                               
administration hasn't  seen fit to  bring any of them  forward to                                                               
the legislature.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. CRAPPS  responded correct; five  are being held and  have not                                                               
been brought forward any further.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SPOHNHOLZ  said it  sounds like the  state already                                                               
has in  place the process  that is  being recommended in  HB 138.                                                               
She  inquired  why  the  sponsor  thinks  this  process  that  is                                                               
currently  in regulation  and that  meets the  EPA's clean  water                                                               
standards should be put in statute.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:30:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOPP  replied [Tier 3] designation  is a political                                                               
question  because  it is  so  far  reaching  and is  the  highest                                                               
designation of any  water body use.   He said it is  so high that                                                               
the state of  California, which is probably  far more restrictive                                                               
environmentally than  Alaska, has  only applied  it to  two water                                                               
bodies.   He related that  there are none in  Nevada, Washington,                                                               
Idaho, or  Alaska and  offered his  belief that  there is  one in                                                               
Oregon.  This is a higher  standard than drinking water, he said,                                                               
the  reason being  that some  aquatic life  is more  sensitive to                                                               
copper  than are  humans.   Its subsequent  impact affects  large                                                               
adjoining land  areas, he  continued.  He  said the  question is,                                                               
"Do  we  want  these  types  of sweeping  decisions  made  by  an                                                               
administrative agency  or do  we want  to have  these discussions                                                               
before  a   legislative  body   where  we   can  talk   about  it                                                               
collectively and  express our  collective will  if we  think this                                                               
special use designation is what we  want and hear from the people                                                               
rather  than  maybe  get  an  internal  agency  report  on  their                                                               
thoughts  on  the  matter?"   Every  administration  changes,  he                                                               
added, along with its preferences  and wishes and this bill would                                                               
bring this highest-level question before the legislature.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:32:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KEN  TRUITT,  Staff,  Representative  Chuck  Kopp,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, specified that  part of the answer is  the timing of                                                               
the regulations.  He stated  the regulations were done in consort                                                               
with Senate  Bill [163], which  would have  done what HB  138 [is                                                               
proposing] to do, and the  regulations got into effect before the                                                               
bill got passed.  There  is currently an ambiguity, he continued,                                                               
because those regulations  point to the legislature  and there is                                                               
nothing currently  in statute that  says the legislature  will do                                                               
this.   So, he  said, HB  138 would complete  a process  that was                                                               
started  by  DEC in  consort  with  the  legislation of  a  prior                                                               
administration.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SPOHNHOLZ  stated that it sounds  like regulations                                                               
are already  in place that put  into effect what is  described in                                                               
HB  138.   So, she  continued, there  may not  be a  problem that                                                               
needs solved,  unless the effort  is to ensure there  wouldn't be                                                               
citizen initiatives that create a  Tier 3 water designation.  She                                                               
asked  whether  the intent  is  to  try  to prevent  a  citizen's                                                               
initiative from creating a Tier 3 water designation.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOPP replied he is  unsure what the constitutional                                                               
implications are with natural resources.   He said the courts use                                                               
bright line tests for whether a  resource can be done through the                                                               
initiative box  and therefore  he doesn't know  if this  could be                                                               
done through  an initiative.   But,  he continued,  DEC considers                                                               
this designation  to be  so far reaching  that once  a nomination                                                               
for  Outstanding National  Resource  Water is  made it  basically                                                               
goes  around most  of the  tools used  by DEC  to regulate  water                                                               
quality standards  for normal water quality  designations and DEC                                                               
prefers  this  policy  call  be  made by  the  legislature.    He                                                               
deferred to DEC to answer further.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. CRAPPS  clarified that  the recently  promulgated regulations                                                               
deal  only with  how Tier  3  water will  be managed  once it  is                                                               
designated.  He explained that what  he spoke to earlier is DEC's                                                               
policy, which is not in regulation.   The policy itself is just a                                                               
department  policy, he  continued,  and it  says the  nominations                                                               
will be submitted to the legislature for designation.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:36:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NILS ANDREASSEN, Executive Director, Alaska Municipal League,                                                                   
testified in support of HB 138.  He spoke as follows:                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     As   you  know,   municipal   powers,  especially   for                                                                    
     boroughs,    can   include    planning   and    zoning,                                                                    
     transportation,  ports and  harbors,  sewer and  water,                                                                    
     solid  waste management,  road  maintenance, and  flood                                                                    
     protection and  mitigation.  Each of  these relate back                                                                    
     to Tier  3 designation.   The role of  local government                                                                    
     is extensive  as it  relates to  community development,                                                                    
     public  safety, and  public welfare.   Local  decision-                                                                    
     making takes  into account  extensive public  input and                                                                    
     directly  involves  residents  in   a  review  of  that                                                                    
     development's impacts  on lands and waters  within city                                                                    
     or  borough  boundaries.   The  designation  of Tier  3                                                                    
     waters  by an  agency  would impact  local control  and                                                                    
     decision-making,   which    otherwise   would   involve                                                                    
     residents and  locally elected officials in  a dialogue                                                                    
     about the  sustainability of community  development and                                                                    
     locally  determined  approaches  to the  mitigation  of                                                                    
     negative  impacts.   Designation  may adversely  impact                                                                    
     municipal  wastewater treatment  plants, for  instance,                                                                    
     or storm  water permitting.   Alaska's  constitution is                                                                    
     clear   in    assigning   to   the    legislature   the                                                                    
     responsibility  for  the  administration of  the  state                                                                    
     public  domain and,  further,  the  reservation of  the                                                                    
     public domain for  special purposes.  In  our review of                                                                    
     HB 138 we  believe that the legislative role  in Tier 3                                                                    
     designation maintains the  separation of powers between                                                                    
     the executive  and legislative branches,  is consistent                                                                    
     with  constitutional  intent  and,  further,  that  the                                                                    
     legislative process  mirrors that  found locally    the                                                                    
     inclusion of Alaskans in a  process that is overseen by                                                                    
     elected officials.   We commend to  the legislature the                                                                    
     importance of  the role that local  governments have in                                                                    
     this process.  Clearly  the conservation and protection                                                                    
     of Alaska's  waters is a meaningful  discussion for all                                                                    
     Alaskans, just  as important as Alaska's  community and                                                                    
     economic  development.   Clarifying  the  legislature's                                                                    
     role  in  Tier 3  designations  isn't  making a  choice                                                                    
     between  the  two,  but provides  a  platform  for  the                                                                    
     careful negotiation  that must take place  with respect                                                                    
     to both.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:39:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR TARR opened public testimony on HB 138.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:40:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KIMBERLY  STRONG,   Tribal  Council  President,   Chilkat  Indian                                                               
Village, testified  in opposition  to HB 138.   She  related that                                                               
her community  is one of three  that are proposing Tier  3 status                                                               
for the  Chilkat River.   She stated  she is concerned  about the                                                               
process being brought  forth because it would  depend on somebody                                                               
else  and the  administration  in office.    She maintained  that                                                               
putting the process  for Tier 3 designation  into the legislative                                                               
body would  result in the  decision process becoming  a political                                                               
battle.  She pointed out that  she would not have enough funds to                                                               
fly to Juneau to testify  in front of legislators [unlike] mining                                                               
companies  or   other  companies  that  want   to  have  resource                                                               
extraction that could irreparably  damage the river that provides                                                               
five species of salmon for the people of the Chilkat Valley.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. STRONG  stated that  Tier 3 designation  should be  a process                                                               
where environmental experts make the  decision as to whether this                                                               
is needed to protect the waterway.   She related that in the past                                                               
DEC was  asked whether it had  done water quality testing  in the                                                               
Chilkat River  and DEC  said it  had not  because there  were too                                                               
many waterways  in Alaska for  the department  to test.   So, she                                                               
continued,  the Chilkat  River goes  untested for  water quality.                                                               
She reiterated  she would  rather it not  be a  political process                                                               
and instead be a process that DEC decides.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:43:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JONES  HOTCH,  Jr.,  Vice   President,  Chilkat  Indian  Village,                                                               
testified  in opposition  to HB  138.   He  noted Chilkat  Indian                                                               
Village is  a federally recognized  Indian tribe.  He  urged that                                                               
the bills in the House and Senate  not be passed.  He pointed out                                                               
there would be no appeal process  and therefore DEC should be the                                                               
one that handles the nomination and selection.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:44:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SHANNON DONAHUE testified in opposition to  HB 138.  She said she                                                               
lives  at  the  mouth  of  the  Chilkat  River,  which  has  been                                                               
nominated  for  Tier  3 protection  because  of  its  exceptional                                                               
ecological  and cultural  significance.   She stated  that people                                                               
and all living things in the  Chilkat Valley depend on this river                                                               
for sustenance.  She said HB  138 would deny Alaskans their right                                                               
to  protect  their  most  valued   waterways  by  implementing  a                                                               
complicated  political   process  for  designation   through  the                                                               
legislature,  making   it  nearly   impossible  to   achieve  the                                                               
protections  that people  have  a  right to  as  Alaskans and  as                                                               
Americans.    Meanwhile,  she  pointed  out,  mines  and  mineral                                                               
exploration companies  go through a simple  permitting process if                                                               
they want to degrade these waters.   She said this makes no sense                                                               
because everyone  in Alaska depends  on the state's  clean, life-                                                               
giving waterways, yet  it is easier to get  permission to pollute                                                               
the waterways than to protect them.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  DONAHUE  stressed  that  Tier  3  designation  should  be  a                                                               
transparent,  reasonable,  nonpolitical  process based  on  clear                                                               
criteria, and  ecological, cultural, or recreational  values, and                                                               
the  will to  protect Alaska's  waterways.   She  urged that  the                                                               
entire review and  designation process remain with the  DEC.  She                                                               
further urged that HB 138 be  killed and the right of Alaskans be                                                               
defended to protect their waters and their homes.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:45:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JILL JACOB  testified in opposition  to HB 138.   She said  it is                                                               
critical the authority  for designating Tier 3  water remain with                                                               
the DEC  and the process  remain an administrative equal  to that                                                               
of permitting  water.  She  stated that it is  astonishing Alaska                                                               
does not yet have a Tier 3  waterbody.  She noted that Lake Tahoe                                                               
in California  is a Tier 3  waterbody and that it  hasn't stopped                                                               
people from  swimming, drinking, or  anything else.   She offered                                                               
her  understanding that  HB 138  would  remove the  option for  a                                                               
public ballot  to designate Tier  3 water and would  also provide                                                               
the  way for  a  governor to  veto a  Tier  3 water  designation.                                                               
Alaska has the  last remaining healthy wild salmon  on the planet                                                               
other than a few  places in Russia, she said, so  there is a need                                                               
to  start  protecting  Alaska's   waterbodies  with  the  highest                                                               
possible  protection.   She  added  that  no amount  of  economic                                                               
development is worth the state's safe drinking water or fish.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:47:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KIP  KERMOIAN testified  in opposition  to HB  138.   He reported                                                               
that at a 3/20/17 meeting in  Juneau, focal groups were formed to                                                               
specifically address the process that  the state of Alaska should                                                               
employ to  nominate and  designate Outstanding  National Resource                                                               
Waters.  He  said the meeting attendees  were two representatives                                                               
for  conservation  organizations,  two  for  commercial  fishing,                                                               
eleven  for government,  sixteen  for industry,  five for  Alaska                                                               
Natives,  two for  the Upper  Lynn Canal  Fish and  Game Advisory                                                               
Committee, and  five undeclared representatives.   Of importance,                                                               
he noted,  is that one  point of consensus  was that none  of the                                                               
focal groups expressed  support for a legislative path  to Tier 3                                                               
designation; the opinion  otherwise was split between  an all DEC                                                               
option or some combination of a DEC and a Tier 3 advisory board.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. KERMOIAN stated that like those  at the workshop, he does not                                                               
support a legislative  option.  He expressed his  opinion that it                                                               
should  be DEC  along with  an advisory  board and  it should  be                                                               
evaluated for a  specific nomination path and  recommended to the                                                               
DEC by this board at least  with stakeholders and a body of other                                                               
people involved.   He said inviting the legislature  to make this                                                               
determination politicizes this  process and it should  be left to                                                               
natural  resources and  scientists,  people of  expertise in  the                                                               
field.   He pointed out  that for Tier  3 these experts  would be                                                               
evaluating   exceptional,   important,  unique,   and   sensitive                                                               
ecological waters.  He added  that the transient political nature                                                               
of how things go would not lend  itself well to this process.  He                                                               
said corporations can  apply for a process to grade  water and HB                                                               
138 and SB  51 would eliminate the ability for  residents and the                                                               
public to do the same.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:50:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BETSEY BURDETT  testified in opposition  to HB 138.   She offered                                                               
her belief that this process should  stay in the realm of DEC and                                                               
some  kind of  advisory board.   She  noted that  legislators are                                                               
replaced every few years, as is  the governor, and she would like                                                               
to  keep it  on an  administrative level  with experts  that know                                                               
about the environment.  She  disagreed that this designation is a                                                               
land use decision and said it  is about clean rivers.  Given many                                                               
of  these rivers  already have  things  going on,  she added,  it                                                               
isn't like it is being taken off the grid.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:51:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAN CONITZ  testified in opposition to  HB 138.  She  stated that                                                               
while the  bill sounds like  a simple change,  it isn't -  it's a                                                               
sweeping change.   She said HB 138 would take  away the rights of                                                               
ordinary Alaskans,  and over time  would result in great  harm to                                                               
Alaska's  mostly pristine  waters  by taking  away  the right  of                                                               
people who know these waters to  take steps to protect them.  She                                                               
pointed  out  that unique  about  Alaska  compared to  all  other                                                               
states, is  the direct  dependence of so  many Alaskans  on clean                                                               
and unspoiled waters.   Those with direct connection  to the land                                                               
and water,  she continued, have  close-up firsthand  knowledge of                                                               
the waterways that need protection  and they know about the risks                                                               
of not taking care of those waters.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CONITZ  said  all  Alaskans  currently  have  the  right  to                                                               
nominate  waters  critically  important as  Outstanding  National                                                               
Resource Waters.  The designation  protects waters from long-term                                                               
pollution  and  degradation by  simply  not  allowing dumping  of                                                               
waste into them,  she continued, and would  not preclude ordinary                                                               
existing  uses of  the  water.   But, she  stated,  HB 138  would                                                               
remove the right  of ordinary Alaskans to take the  first step to                                                               
protect the water  that they depend on and care  about.  The bill                                                               
would turn  efforts to reasonably  protect clean water over  to a                                                               
political  process, which  would probably  in practice  be nearly                                                               
impossible to  prevail.  She  pointed out the legislature  can at                                                               
this  time  designate  Tier  3  waters  if  it  chooses  to,  but                                                               
evidently it has not, and so there  is no point in passing HB 138                                                               
to give the  legislature more authority.  She  reiterated that HB                                                               
138  would take  away the  authority and  the rights  of ordinary                                                               
Alaskans and  would allow further  degradation of  Alaska's clean                                                               
waters.  She urged the bill not be passed.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:54:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DOUG WOODBY testified in opposition to  HB 138.  He said he began                                                               
working for  the Alaska Department of  Fish and Game in  the mid-                                                               
1970s  and  retired  a  few   years  ago  as  a  chief  fisheries                                                               
scientist.   He noted he  conducted research and  management work                                                               
all around  the state and  is opposed to HB  138 for a  number of                                                               
reasons.  The  primary reason, he continued, is  because it would                                                               
make  the designation  of these  exceptional  waters a  political                                                               
process when  it should  be based  on best  scientific expertise.                                                               
He said that based on the  bill's sponsors, it is clear that many                                                               
are  extractive  industries.   Alaska  currently  has  no  waters                                                               
designated  under this  special  designation, he  stated, and  it                                                               
appears  that HB  138 is  a thinly  veiled attempt  to make  that                                                               
almost impossible, which is why he opposes it.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:55:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEANTHA CROCKETT,  Executive Director, Alaska  Miners Association                                                               
(AMA), testified in support of HB 138.  She spoke as follows:                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     The Clean Water  Act requires all states  to maintain a                                                                    
     process  for Tier  3 water  designation.   This is  for                                                                    
     water   that's   described    as   having   exceptional                                                                    
     recreational or ecological  significance or waters that                                                                    
     are  within   parks  and   refuge,  so   truly  special                                                                    
     scenarios of  water protection above what  the State of                                                                    
     Alaska already does.  Tier  3 waters effectively cannot                                                                    
     have any new  or any expanded activities  that have the                                                                    
     potential to change  the water quality in any  way.  So                                                                    
     this would apply even in  situations where the activity                                                                    
     meets  existing  water   quality  standards  and  fully                                                                    
     protects the fish and the water  and any other uses.  A                                                                    
     designation  would result  in significant  restrictions                                                                    
     on land  and water users and  cause significant adverse                                                                    
     and   social  and   economic   impacts.     Because   a                                                                    
     designation applies to  a Tier 3 tributary or  a Tier 3                                                                    
     water,   it  would   prohibit  development   in  entire                                                                    
     watersheds  comparable to  de factor  wilderness.   And                                                                    
     for  that  reason  we  believe  ...  the  authority  to                                                                    
     designate  should lie  solely  with representatives  of                                                                    
     Alaskans, which is the legislature.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     With  regard  to  the  designations,  they've  got  the                                                                    
     potential   to   become  tools   for   anti-development                                                                    
     interests to block or delay  projects.  It's evident in                                                                    
     the  five  nominations   before  DEC  currently,  which                                                                    
     specify  mining, oil  and gas,  federal land  planning,                                                                    
     and  Alaska  Native   corporation  land  selections  as                                                                    
     threats  to  waterbodies.    But   it's  clear  that  a                                                                    
     designation  goes a  lot farther.   Tier  3 designation                                                                    
     could  impact a  lot  of  other users,  non-development                                                                    
     users that  the sponsor  outlined in  his introduction.                                                                    
     ... That  is why you will  see in your packet  a letter                                                                    
     authored  by 15  diverse organizations  that understand                                                                    
     the impact  of a  Tier 3  designation to  all Alaskans.                                                                    
     And we  believe that given the  significant adverse and                                                                    
     watershed-wide land  and water use impacts  that a Tier                                                                    
     3  water should  be designated  only by  a vote  to the                                                                    
     legislature.       This   is   consistent    with   the                                                                    
     constitution,  the existing  process for  setting aside                                                                    
     areas of state land  from development, and existing DEC                                                                    
     policy.  And  for those reasons we urge  you to support                                                                    
     this bill.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:58:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JESSICA  PLACHTA,  Executive  Director, Lynn  Canal  Conservation                                                               
(LCC),  testified  in  opposition  to  HB  138.    She  said  her                                                               
organization's 300  active members are  speaking with her  as she                                                               
testifies  opposing HB  138  and SB  51.   She  related that  LCC                                                               
supports  the Village  of Klukwan,  which  nominated the  Chilkat                                                               
River for Tier 3 protection.  She continued:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Clean water  is not a  partisan issue.  Anyone  who has                                                                    
     ever  fed a  child or  caught a  fish knows  that clean                                                                    
     water is a  basic human right.  Alaska  is blessed with                                                                    
     abundant clean  water and despite its  small population                                                                    
     Alaska  is  also  the biggest  water  polluter  in  the                                                                    
     country.   It can do  better than  that.  The  state of                                                                    
     Alaska has been out of  compliance with the Clean Water                                                                    
     Act for  over 20 years.   But [Alaskans]  are demanding                                                                    
     the  right  to protect  our  clean  waters and  healthy                                                                    
     salmon runs before  rampant industrialization makes our                                                                    
     way of life history.   Support for subsistence is built                                                                    
     into the  state constitution;  it should not  be easier                                                                    
     to pollute  public waters in  the state of  Alaska than                                                                    
     it is to  protect them.  Opponents  of protection argue                                                                    
     that  Tier 3  designation  would be  bad for  business.                                                                    
     Tell that  to Florida, which  has 41 designated  Tier 3                                                                    
     waterways and  a robust  economy.   We are  counting on                                                                    
     you  legislators to  resist corporate  pressure and  do                                                                    
     the right  thing.  Let  communities protect  the waters                                                                    
     they  rely  on  using   sound  science,  not  corporate                                                                    
     pressure  and not  politics for  the  yardstick.   It's                                                                    
     that  simple.    There  is an  alternate  Tier  3  bill                                                                    
     waiting  in the  wings,  one that  makes  it easier  to                                                                    
     protect the  water we all  rely on for our  health, our                                                                    
     wealth,  and  our future  generations.    Wait for  it.                                                                    
     Please oppose  HB 138 and SB  51.  Three hundred  of us                                                                    
     here  in Haines  ask you  to join  us and  oppose these                                                                    
     destructive backward bills.   And please let us protect                                                                    
     the Chilkat River.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:00:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LOUIE FLORA, Director, Government Affairs, The Alaska Center                                                                    
(TAC), testified in opposition to HB 138.  He stated:                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     We  believe  the  state's top  cop  for  water  quality                                                                    
     regulations,  DEC,  has  the  ability,  expertise,  and                                                                    
     clear  legal authority  to  establish  a science  based                                                                    
     nomination  process for  high value  waters for  Tier 3                                                                    
     water as  required under the  federal Clean  Water Act.                                                                    
     We believe administration of Tier  3 for waters of high                                                                    
     ecological or recreational value  can be rendered under                                                                    
     the  existing anti-degradation  policy incorporated  in                                                                    
     the existing  DEC water quality standards  program. ...                                                                    
     DEC  does  not  need   additional  legal  authority  to                                                                    
     designate  Tier 3  waters;  it just  needs  to adopt  a                                                                    
     process for doing  that. Moving legislative designation                                                                    
     of Tier 3  waters will result in  an entirely political                                                                    
     process  for  any  discussion   on  the  science  based                                                                    
     merits, and the Tier  3 designation will be steamrolled                                                                    
     by politics and  money.  And DEC has  the water quality                                                                    
     expertise  and the  ability to  regulate water  quality                                                                    
     [and]  should  be the  entity  to  make the  protective                                                                    
     determinations.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FLORA  addressed  the  argument that  HB  138  is  necessary                                                               
because Tier  3 designations  are too  big of  a policy  call for                                                               
DEC.   He  said this  to be  a strange  argument in  that EPA  is                                                               
currently  moving ahead  with certification  of  an Alaska  water                                                               
quality  regulation  promulgated  by  DEC  in  2006  that  allows                                                               
pollution-mixing zones  in salmon spawning  areas statewide.   He                                                               
pointed  out   that  this  2006   regulation  has   far  reaching                                                               
implications  for  salmon  habitat  and for  salmon  user  groups                                                               
statewide  and  was  carried  out   administratively.    Yet,  he                                                               
continued, with  HB 138  it is  being said  that to  protect very                                                               
specific  and   geographically  limited  waters   of  exceptional                                                               
ecological value  the burden is  too great for  an administrative                                                               
process.   He  said the  argument  that the  agencies should  not                                                               
independently  make  determinations  to  protect  certain  waters                                                               
ignores  the statute  that  allows  citizens, organizations,  and                                                               
state  agencies   to  make  in-stream  flow   or  water  quantity                                                               
reservations through  an administrative process overseen  by DNR.                                                               
These reservations, he noted, are  made quite often by the Alaska                                                               
Department of Fish and Game to  protect fish habitat and it's all                                                               
without legislated confirmation or approval.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. FLORA  stated HB 138 is  unnecessary and should not  be moved                                                               
from committee.  He said  DEC should, within its clear authority,                                                               
create a  regulation that satisfies  the federal Clean  Water Act                                                               
requirement that states  have a process for  citizens to nominate                                                               
specific  high  value  waters   for  protection  from  additional                                                               
degradation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:03:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GUY ARCHIBALD  testified in opposition to  HB 138.  He  stated he                                                               
is  representing himself  but works  as staff  scientist for  the                                                               
Southeast Alaska Conservation  Council (SEACC).  He  said some of                                                               
the  talking points  in the  sponsor's statement  are imperfectly                                                               
informed,  such  as  the  statement  that  the  State  of  Alaska                                                               
currently has  no formal process  for designating  a Tier 3.   He                                                               
drew attention  to the [7/26/18]  letter in the  committee packet                                                               
from  the EPA  to Mr.  Andrew Sayers-Fay  [Director, Division  of                                                               
Water, DEC] and  noted the letter mentions that  EPA is approving                                                               
the Tier 1 and Tier 2 because  DEC still has in place the interim                                                               
antidegradation guidance  that outlines  three different  ways to                                                               
designate Tier  3.  One  of those ways,  he said, is  through the                                                               
triennial  review process  where any  resident of  the state  can                                                               
nominate a Tier 3 and DEC is supposed to move that along.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. ARCHIBALD  said nobody argues  that the legislature  does not                                                               
have  the  authority to  designate  a  Tier  3.   He  stated  the                                                               
legislature can  act on  those at  any time  and has  always been                                                               
able to do  that.  So, he  continued, if this bill is  not a bill                                                               
to form  a designation process,  then it  must be asked,  What is                                                               
it?  He said it's clear that HB  138 is designed to take a public                                                               
process out  of it so  that the public  process does not  have an                                                               
administrative process  or even  an appeal process  judicially to                                                               
form  a Tier  3.   In regard  to statements  that protecting  the                                                               
water  is so  far  reaching and  has so  many  other effects,  he                                                               
pointed out  that contaminating  water has effects  as well  - on                                                               
other  landowners, communities,  and people's  ability to  make a                                                               
living through the  fishing industry.  He maintained it  is not a                                                               
land  use decision  because landowners  adjacent  to the  state's                                                               
public waters have no inherent right to pollute those waters.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  TARR inquired  about the  three ways  [that DEC  has to                                                               
designate a Tier 3].                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. ARCHIBALD  replied that  the Alaska  Department of  Law (DOL)                                                               
has done  an opinion  on this, but  has not made  it public.   He                                                               
related  that the  Department of  Law told  him it  was attorney-                                                               
client privilege.  He suggested the committee ask for it.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:06:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SARAH   DAVIDSON,  Program   Manager,   Inside  Passage   Waters,                                                               
Southeast  Alaska  Conservation  Council  (SEACC),  testified  in                                                               
opposition to HB 138.  She  said her position with SEACC provides                                                               
her the opportunity to travel  throughout Southeast Alaska, speak                                                               
to  communities about  water  challenges  and opportunities,  and                                                               
listen to their concerns, needs, and interests.  She continued:                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Of the many concerns I've  heard, those relating to the                                                                    
     future of wild  Alaskan salmon stocks have  come up the                                                                    
     most, a  concern that  I imagine is  shared by  many in                                                                    
     this  room.    As  stressors  in  the  ocean  ecosystem                                                                    
     increase,  our  streams  and rivers  become  even  more                                                                    
     critical to the survival  of salmon and the communities                                                                    
     that rely on  them.  Currently most  Alaskan waters are                                                                    
     clean enough to catch  fish and eat without significant                                                                    
     health  hazards.   This is  one  of the  few places  on                                                                    
     earth where this is the  case.  That alone makes Alaska                                                                    
     unique and  fuels our two  largest economic  drivers in                                                                    
     this region   fishing and  tourism.  We should be doing                                                                    
     everything we  can to protect that  special quality and                                                                    
     the waterways that make that  possible.  Instead HB 138                                                                    
     makes  it even  more difficult  than it  already is  to                                                                    
     protect our  clean waters  and leads  us down  the same                                                                    
     path from which  other states in our  country are still                                                                    
     struggling  to  recover  after  decades  of  industrial                                                                    
     pollution.  It  should be no more  difficult to protect                                                                    
     Alaskan waters  that it is  to pollute them.   Not only                                                                    
     does  HB 138  make this  process political  rather than                                                                    
     scientific  by removing  authority  from  DEC, it  also                                                                    
     removes  the opportunity  of Tier  3  designation by  a                                                                    
     public  initiative.    The same  agency  that  has  the                                                                    
     scientific expertise to implement  a Tier 3 designation                                                                    
     should  also  have  the  authority  to  designate  them                                                                    
     through  an administrative  and science  based process.                                                                    
     This  is not  my perspective  alone.   It is  shared by                                                                    
     over 150 people  who signed our petition  calling for a                                                                    
     Tier  3 designation  process equally  as administrative                                                                    
     and streamlined  as the permit  process to  degrade our                                                                    
     waters.   Any short-term gains  made by the  passing of                                                                    
     HB 138  will be  undermined by the  long-term detriment                                                                    
     to  our   clean  water,  our  healthy   fish,  and  our                                                                    
     resilient communities.   HB 138 hurts all of  us. ... I                                                                    
     call on  each representative on this  committee to have                                                                    
     the will and the courage  to prioritize clean water for                                                                    
     those yet to come by defeating this bill.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:09:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER EVOY testified  in opposition to HB 138.   She stated she                                                               
is Tsimshian  from the Eagle  Clan.  She  noted she works  as the                                                               
Indigenous Engagement Lead for  the Southeast Alaska Conservation                                                               
Council (SEACC),  but is speaking  today on behalf of  herself as                                                               
an Alaska Native  whose ancestors have been  here for 10,000-plus                                                               
years.   She said  that for almost  10 years DEC  has sat  on the                                                               
five Tier  3 nominations, all of  which have come from  an Alaska                                                               
Native tribe,  not corporations.   In regard  to the  argument by                                                               
proponents of  a legislative-only Tier  3 process that Tier  3 is                                                               
just a  tool for  special interest groups,  she pointed  out that                                                               
tribes are  not special interest  groups any more than  any other                                                               
government entities.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:10:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PHILLIP MOSER testified in opposition to  HB 138.  He stated that                                                               
passing the  bill would be a  blow to the voice  and wellbeing of                                                               
citizens  like him.   He  said he  finds it  outrageous that  the                                                               
proponents  of  smaller government  and  less  regulation have  a                                                               
talking  point that  only applies  to industry  and capital,  but                                                               
when citizens  have a tool  to advocate for themselves  and their                                                               
health and the  waters on which they rely, proposals  are made to                                                               
add more  and more bureaucracy  to stop them.   He stated  DEC is                                                               
set up  precisely to  work through  Tier 3  water issues  and can                                                               
respond to  community advocacy well; shunting  Tier 3 designation                                                               
to  the  state  lawmaking  process   would  result  in  losing  a                                                               
straightforward  fact based  investigative  process to  political                                                               
stalling.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. MOSER  asked why business  can apply to  the DEC with  a six-                                                               
page  application to  engage in  long-term pollution  of Alaska's                                                               
best waters while  its own citizens trying to  protect those same                                                               
waters upon which they rely and  live on are considered a threat.                                                               
Regardless  of whether  the bill  passes, he  said, the  evidence                                                               
already says  Alaska's waters have many  stressors and everything                                                               
possible  needs to  be  done  to uphold  Alaska's  waters as  the                                                               
cleanest and best  waters for its own citizens.   He noted Tier 3                                                               
designations do not  apply to existing uses of  those waters, and                                                               
offered his belief that the argument  that it could be onerous to                                                               
people if this legislation isn't passed is much overstated.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:12:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[HB 138 was held over.]                                                                                                         

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SB 43 Sponsor Statement.pdf HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
SB 43
CSSB 43 (SFIN) - Sectional Summary.pdf HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
SB 43
SB 43, Version A.PDF HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
HRES 5/3/2019 1:00:00 PM
SB 43
CSSB 43, Version B.pdf HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
SB 43
SB 43 Work Draft v. M - Explanation.pdf HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
HRES 5/3/2019 1:00:00 PM
SB 43
SB 43 Letters of Support.pdf HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
HRES 5/3/2019 1:00:00 PM
SB 43
SB 43 Letters of Opposition.pdf HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
SB 43
SB 43 DCPL Letter .pdf HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
HRES 5/3/2019 1:00:00 PM
SB 43
SB 43 Bunch Testimony .pdf HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
SB 43
SB 43 Additional Testimony Huttunen.pdf HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
SB 43
SB 43 BGCSB Letter of Support 4.03.19.pdf HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
SB 43
SB 43 Big Game Commercial Services Board Sunset Review Audit.pdf HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
SB 43
HB138 Sponsor Statement version U 4.22.2019.pdf HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
HRES 5/3/2019 1:00:00 PM
HB 138
HB138 version A 4.22.2019.pdf HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
HRES 5/3/2019 1:00:00 PM
HB 138
HB138 Supporting Material DNR Fact Sheet Legislatively Designated Areas 4.22.2019.pdf HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
HRES 5/3/2019 1:00:00 PM
HB 138
HB138 Supporting Material DEC Tier 3 Water Designation FAQ 4.22.2019.pdf HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
HRES 5/3/2019 1:00:00 PM
HB 138
HB138 Supporting Material DEC Tier 3 response 4.22.2019.pdf HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
HRES 5/3/2019 1:00:00 PM
HB 138
HB138 Supporting Material DEC Final Tier 3 Guidance 4.22.2019.pdf HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
HB 138
HB138 Supporting Material Commissioner Hartig Letter to Senate 4.22.2019.PDF HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
HRES 5/3/2019 1:00:00 PM
HB 138
HB138 40 CFR Part 131 4.22.2019.pdf HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
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HB138 18 AAC 70.016 4.22.2019.pdf HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
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HB136 Fiscal Note 4.26.19.pdf HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
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HR138 Supporting Document EPA Response to DEC 7.26.18.pdf HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
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HB138 Supporting Document - Chilkat Indian Village Letter of Opposition 4.26.19.pdf HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
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HB138 Supporting Document - DEC P&P re Tier 3 Nomination 11.21.18.pdf HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
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HB138 Supporting Document EPA Response to DEC 7.26.18.pdf HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
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HB138 Fiscal Note 4.26.19.pdf HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
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HR138 Supporting Document EPA Response to DEC 7.26.18.pdf HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
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SB43 Supporting Document - RHAK Letter House Resources 4.25.19.pdf HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
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HB138 Coalition Letter of Support 4.28.19.pdf HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
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HB138 Letters of Opposition 4.29.19.pdf HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
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HB138 Additional Letters of Opposition.pdf HRES 4/29/2019 1:00:00 PM
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