Legislature(2005 - 2006)CAPITOL 124

03/22/2006 01:00 PM RESOURCES


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01:55:50 PM Start
01:59:00 PM HB415
02:21:11 PM Board of Game
02:25:59 PM Big Game Services Board
02:33:30 PM HB420
02:45:34 PM HB419
02:53:14 PM Board of Game
02:54:12 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Meeting Postponed to Session Adjourn--
= HB 415 LIABILITY FOR RECREATIONAL LAND USE
Moved Out of Committee
*+ HB 419 REPEAL UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANK LAWS TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+ HB 420 FOREST RESOURCES & PRACTICES STANDARDS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 420(FSH) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                                                                                                                                
^Board of Game                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RAMRAS announced  that the next order  of business would                                                               
be to  consider the appointment  of Richard Burley to  the Alaska                                                               
Board of Game.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[Contains discussion of SB 85]                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
RICHARD BURLEY, Appointee,  Alaska Board of Game,  said he served                                                               
on the board in the 1990s and would like to continue serving.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO  noted that  Mr. Burley took  flying lessons                                                               
in 1961, and asked  if he has flown the Dalton  Highway.  He said                                                               
there is legislation, [SB 85],  that may be before the committee,                                                               
and he  asked if there has  been abuse of the  highway that would                                                               
require significantly more monitoring.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. BURLEY  asked if he was  referring to abuse of  fish and game                                                               
or the entire corridor system.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO spoke  of pending  legislation to  increase                                                               
access along the Dalton Highway, and  he surmised it will be used                                                               
by hunters and  recreationists.  He asked if Mr.  Burley has seen                                                               
people poaching or herding animals along the Dalton Highway.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BURLEY said  he  thinks there  are reasons  to  open up  the                                                               
corridor, because  the Dalton  Highway is  one of  a few  ways to                                                               
access Alaska.  He said he hasn't seen major infractions.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO  said  that observation  is  important  and                                                               
asked  if he  has seen  snow machines  or other  vehicles herding                                                               
animals.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. BURLEY said he has not  observed it, but that doesn't mean it                                                               
hasn't happened.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAPSNER asked how long  it takes to fly the Dalton                                                               
Highway.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. BURLEY said from 1.5 hours  to 3 hours, depending on the type                                                               
of airplane.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:21:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RAMRAS  said he  has known  him for a  long time  and he                                                               
thanked him for his contributions to the community and state.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  moved  to  advance the  name  of  Richard                                                               
Hurley, appointee to the Board of  Game, to the joint session for                                                               
consideration.  Hearing no objections, it was so ordered.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
[The  returned  attention to  the  confirmation  hearings on  the                                                               
Board of Game later in the hearing.]                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:22:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^Big Game Services Board                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[Contains discussion of SB 85]                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT  MUMFORD,  Appointee, Big  Game  Services  Board, said  he                                                               
worked for fish  and wildlife protection with  the state troopers                                                               
for 18  years.  He is  retired and interested in  serving on this                                                               
board.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO asked  if Mr. Mumford has  seen abuse during                                                               
his patrols around the Dalton Highway.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. MUMFORD said he  has sent emails in opposition to  SB 85.  He                                                               
lived  and worked  in that  area for  many years,  and his  major                                                               
concern is  ATV use on  the north side  and the scaring  it would                                                               
leave in  the tundra.   He  said he hasn't  seen much  herding of                                                               
game, because  there isn't much use  of that area except  by snow                                                               
machines in the  winter.  He has seen people  running wolves down                                                               
with snow machines.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO asked if running wolves down is illegal.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. MUMFORD said it can be, and  he was never able to make a case                                                               
against someone,  although he has  seen tracks in the  snow where                                                               
it happened.  Because of weather,  "it's hard to catch a day that                                                               
you can  actually fly and track  one of these guys  down."  There                                                               
is legal use of snow machines too, he noted.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:25:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO asked about ATVs south of Atigun Pass.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MUMFORD said that is not  as much of an environmental impact-                                                               
-if it  is regulated.  Otherwise  the territory would be  torn up                                                               
"so bad," and it is impossible to removes the scars.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO asked  if an ATV was a  single individual on                                                               
a four-wheeler or a track vehicle.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. MUMFORD said  he is talking about both. "I'd  say no ATV-use,                                                               
just a single person on an ATV--that tundra is pretty fragile."                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:27:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SAMUELS said the Big  Game Commercial Services Board was                                                               
created to  set ethical standards  for guides and to  resolve the                                                               
conflicts  between guides  and  transporters,  especially in  the                                                               
Northwest Arctic  Borough.   He asked how  he would  address both                                                               
the ethical standards for guides, "to  make sure that some of the                                                               
local folks  out in western Alaska  can get and keep  those jobs,                                                               
and the conflict between the guides and the transporters."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MUMFORD   said  ethical  standards  need   to  be  specific,                                                               
attainable, and  definable.  He  said he  would like to  read the                                                               
tenets of the Alaska Professional  Hunters Association and see if                                                               
they could  be adopted.  He  said he believes heavily  in ethical                                                               
standards  and breaking  them  should  come with  a  cost.   Many                                                               
resident hunters use transporters,  and they should have priority                                                               
over non-resident hunters, he added.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:29:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SAMUELS  moved to  advance the  name of  Robert Mumford,                                                               
appointee  to the  Big  Game Commercial  Services  Board, to  the                                                               
joint session for consideration. Hearing  no objection, it was so                                                               
ordered.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
2:29:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                

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