Legislature(2017 - 2018)BARNES 124

01/22/2018 03:15 PM LABOR & COMMERCE

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*+ HB 273 EXTEND: MARIJUANA CONTROL BOARD TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
*+ HB 274 EXTEND: BD OF PSYCHOLOGISTS/PSYCH ASSOC. TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
*+ HB 275 EXTEND: BOARD OF MASSAGE THERAPISTS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
+= HB 180 MONEY SERVICES BUSINESS: REQS; LICENSING; TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled but Not Heard
-- Public Testimony --
           HB 275-EXTEND: BOARD OF MASSAGE THERAPISTS                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:21:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KITO  announced that the  final order of business  would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 275,  "An Act extending  the termination  date of                                                               
the Board of  Massage Therapists; and providing  for an effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:21:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CRYSTAL KOENEMAN, Staff, Representative Sam Kito, Alaska State                                                                  
Legislature, paraphrased from the Sponsor Statement [Included in                                                                
members' packets], which read:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     House  Bill 275  extends the  termination date  for the                                                                    
     Board of Massage Therapists until June 30, 2022.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Per statute, this board is  scheduled to sunset on June                                                                    
     30, 2018 with  a one-year wind down  if the legislature                                                                    
     does not  pass legislation extending it.  The licensing                                                                    
     function  will remain  after  this  date; however,  the                                                                    
     administrative  functions of  the board  would transfer                                                                    
     to the department.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Legislative Audit  reviewed the board's  operations and                                                                    
     determined  that it  is  in the  best  interest of  the                                                                    
     state  to  extend this  board.  The  audit makes  three                                                                    
     recommendations  and recommends  a four-year  extension                                                                    
     with a new  termination date of June 30,  2022. This is                                                                    
     half of the full  eight-year extension that Legislative                                                                    
     Audit is authorized to provide.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     The recommendations are as follows:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     1.   The  Division   of  Corporations,   Business,  and                                                                    
     Professional    Licensing's   (DCBPL)    director,   in                                                                    
     consultation  with the  board,  should  take action  to                                                                    
     improve  procedures  to ensure  licensure  requirements                                                                    
     are met.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     2. DCBPL's  director should address the  Federal Bureau                                                                    
     of Investigations audit findings and concerns.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     3. The director  of the Office of  the Governor, Boards                                                                    
     and Commissions  should work to fill  the public member                                                                    
     position.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     The   board  currently   oversees  over   1,400  active                                                                    
     licensees and  is made  up of  five members.  State law                                                                    
     requires  four board  positions be  filled by  licensed                                                                    
     massage therapists actively engaged  in the practice of                                                                    
     massage   therapy  for   a   period   of  three   years                                                                    
     immediately  preceding the  appointment. The  remaining                                                                    
     position  is to  be filled  by an  individual from  the                                                                    
     general  public. Statute  prohibits  the public  member                                                                    
     from  being   a  licensed  health  care   provider,  an                                                                    
     employee of  the State, or  a current or  former member                                                                    
     of another occupational licensing board.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     The continuation of the Board  of Massage Therapists is                                                                    
     important to the health and safety of Alaskans.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:23:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KRISTIN CURTIS, Legislative  Auditor, Legislative Audit Division,                                                               
Alaska  State  Legislature,  directed  attention  to  the  sunset                                                               
review  audit, also  dated October  2017,  [Included in  member's                                                               
packets],  and paraphrased  from  the  report conclusions,  which                                                               
read:                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     In  all areas  except  licensing, the  audit found  the                                                                    
     board  was  operating  in  the  public's  interest.  In                                                                    
     general,    meetings   were    conducted   effectively,                                                                    
     investigations  were appropriately  processed, and  the                                                                    
     board  actively   issued  or  changed   regulations  to                                                                    
     improve the industry and better protect the public.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     The audit  concluded the board  and DCBPL  staff should                                                                    
     improve  its licensing  procedures. Testing  found that                                                                    
     applicants  were not  consistently  issued licenses  in                                                                    
     accordance    with   statutes,    regulations,   and/or                                                                    
     procedures.  Additionally, improvements  are needed  to                                                                    
     comply  with   the  federal  standards   over  criminal                                                                    
     history  record information  obtained  as  part of  the                                                                    
     licensing process.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     In accordance  with AS  08.03.010(c)(12), the  board is                                                                    
     scheduled to  terminate on June 30,  2018. We recommend                                                                    
     that  the legislature  extend  the board's  termination                                                                    
     date to June 30, 2022.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. CURTIS  directed attention to  page 11 of the  sunset review,                                                               
which  listed the  schedule of  licensing activity,  and reported                                                               
that from  FY16 through August  2017, the board had  issued 1,186                                                               
licenses, which was double the expected  number.  She moved on to                                                               
page 14, the Schedule of  Revenues and Expenditures, noting that,                                                               
as the board  had a surplus of  $265,000 at the end  of FY17, the                                                               
license fees  were lowered in FY18  to address the surplus.   She                                                               
pointed out that the license fees were listed on page 15.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. CURTIS  reported that there  were three  recommendations, and                                                               
she  paraphrased  from  the first  recommendation,  "Division  of                                                               
Corporations,  Business,  and  Professional  Licensing's  (DCBPL)                                                               
director, in  consultation with the  Board of  Massage Therapists                                                               
(board),  should  take action  to  improve  procedures to  ensure                                                               
licensure requirements are met," which read:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Three of 31 license applications  tested as part of the                                                                    
     audit   were  licensed   without  adequate   supporting                                                                    
     documentation and/or review. Deficiencies included:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
      A background  check report  for one  initial applicant                                                                    
     was  not completed.  The  licensee  operated without  a                                                                    
     background   check  report   from  licensure   date  of                                                                    
     September 2015 through receipt  of the background check                                                                    
     report July  2017 during  the license  renewal process.                                                                    
     Regulation6    requires    applicants   submit    their                                                                    
     fingerprints for a background  check report in order to                                                                    
     obtain  a  license  to practice  massage  therapy.  Per                                                                    
     regulation, licenses  can be issued to  applicants even                                                                    
     though  a   background  check   report  has   not  been                                                                    
     received.   However,  DCBPL   staff  must   ensure  the                                                                    
     background check  is completed timely.  The applicant's                                                                    
     fingerprint card  was sent back  multiple times  due to                                                                    
     incomplete  information. DCBPL  staff  did not  perform                                                                    
     additional follow-up to  obtain a completed fingerprint                                                                    
     card because staff failed to  list the applicant on the                                                                    
     DCBPL   spreadsheet   used  for   tracking   background                                                                    
     reports.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
      One  applicant   answered  "yes"  to   a  professional                                                                    
     fitness question, however no  evidence could be located                                                                    
     to   demonstrate  that   the   applicant  provided   an                                                                    
     explanation.  Furthermore, it  is  unclear whether  the                                                                    
     board considered an explanation prior to licensing.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
      One  applicant answered  "yes"  to  a professional  fi                                                                    
     question  and provided  an  explanation which  included                                                                    
     evidence of a permanent  revocation of a national board                                                                    
     certification  for  violating  the respective  code  of                                                                    
     ethics and  standards of practice. DCBPL  staff and the                                                                    
     board   did  not   forward  the   application  to   the                                                                    
     investigative  section   for  review.  A   license  was                                                                    
     granted with  the requirement that the  individual take                                                                    
     a two  credit ethics  course. The background  check did                                                                    
     not show  any convictions,  and according to  the board                                                                    
     chair, the board  believed that a license  could not be                                                                    
     denied   based  on   the  revocation   of  a   national                                                                    
     certificate. However,  DCBPL procedures called  for the                                                                    
     application  to  be  forwarded  to  investigations  for                                                                    
     further review. It  is unclear why DCBPL  staff did not                                                                    
     forward the application.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska Statute 08.61.030(9) states that:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     The board may  issue a license to a person  who has not                                                                    
     been convicted of,  or pled guilty or no  contest to, a                                                                    
     crime  involving  moral  turpitude,  or  who  has  been                                                                    
     convicted of, or pled guilty  or no contest to, a crime                                                                    
     involving moral  turpitude if the board  finds that the                                                                    
     conviction  does not  affect  the  person's ability  to                                                                    
     practice competently and safely.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     The lack  of a  thorough and  timely evaluation  of the                                                                    
     above  applicants' professional  fitness increased  the                                                                    
     risk to public safety.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     We  recommend DCBPL's  director,  in consultation  with                                                                    
     the board, take action  to improve procedures to ensure                                                                    
     licensure requirements are met.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. CURTIS paraphrased from the second recommendation, "DCBPL's                                                                 
director should address the Federal Bureau of Investigations                                                                    
(FBI) audit findings and concerns," which read:                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     DCBPL  did  not  comply  with  federal  standards  over                                                                    
     criminal  history  record  information. The  FBI  audit                                                                    
     conducted  in  April  2017 found  DCBPL  did  not  have                                                                    
     secure   channels   of   communication.   Additionally,                                                                    
     applicants  were not  notified  in  writing that  their                                                                    
     fingerprints  were to  be used  for  an FBI  background                                                                    
     check  and  were  not advised  of  the  procedures  for                                                                    
     obtaining,  changing, correcting,  or  updating an  FBI                                                                    
     identification record. Additionally,  the federal audit                                                                    
     found  inadequate  chain  of  custody  for  fingerprint                                                                    
     cards. A chain of custody  ensures the integrity of the                                                                    
     applicant/fingerprint process.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     DCBPL  addressed  one  of  the  findings  by  including                                                                    
     verbiage    in   the    application   that    submitted                                                                    
     fingerprints  will be  sent to  the FBI  for a  federal                                                                    
     background  check. However,  as  of  October 2017,  the                                                                    
     other issues remain outstanding.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     According  to   28  CFR  20.21(f)(1),  (2),   and  (3),                                                                    
     whichever   State   agency    collects,   stores,   and                                                                    
     disseminates criminal  history record  information must                                                                    
     prevent  unauthorized  access  to  information;  ensure                                                                    
     that  the  information   is  restricted  to  authorized                                                                    
     users;  and that  the information  cannot be  modified,                                                                    
     destroyed,  accessed, changed,  purged, or  overlaid by                                                                    
     other  entities.  Additionally,  per 28  CFR  50.12(b),                                                                    
     applicants must be advised  of procedures for obtaining                                                                    
     a  change, correction,  or updating  FBI identification                                                                    
     records.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Per   DCBPL   management,   staff   was   unaware   the                                                                    
     communications  and  fingerprint  cards  did  not  meet                                                                    
     federal  standards. Ensuring  data  is secure  protects                                                                    
     individual privacy and promotes public safety.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     We  recommend DCBPL's  director address  the FBI  audit                                                                    
     findings and concerns.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Auditor's   Note:   Details  regarding   the   unsecure                                                                  
     channels of communication are  being withheld from this                                                                    
     report to  prevent the  weakness from  being exploited.                                                                    
     Pertinent  details  have  been communicated  to  agency                                                                    
     management in a separate confidential document.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. CURTIS paraphrased from recommendation 3, "The director of                                                                  
the Office of the Governor, Boards and Commissions should work                                                                  
to fill the public member position," which read:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     The public  member position on the  board became vacant                                                                    
     March 2017 and remained vacant as of October 2017.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Per AS 08.61.010, the board  is statutorily required to                                                                    
     consist of five members  appointed by the governor, one                                                                    
     of  which is  a public  member  who is  not a  licensed                                                                    
     health  care  provider, employee  of  the  State, or  a                                                                    
     current   or  former   member  of   another  occupation                                                                    
     licensing  board. According  to Boards  and Commissions                                                                    
     staff,  stringent  requirements  make it  difficult  to                                                                    
     find   interested  applicants.   The   Office  of   the                                                                    
     Governor,   Boards    and   Commissions    section   is                                                                    
     responsible for actively  recruiting, interviewing, and                                                                    
     vetting board applicants.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     The lack  of a public  board member prevents  the board                                                                    
     from conducting business  with appropriate public input                                                                    
     and perspective.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     We  recommend  the  director  of   the  Office  of  the                                                                    
     Governor,  Boards  and  Commissions work  to  fill  the                                                                    
     public member position.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CURTIS added  that the public member to the  board may not be                                                               
a licensed  health care provider,  an employee of the  state, and                                                               
may not  be a  current or former  member of  another occupational                                                               
licensing  board.    She  pointed   out  that  these  restrictive                                                               
requirements  could   make  it   difficult  to   find  interested                                                               
applicants.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:28:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CURTIS directed attention to  the response from the Office of                                                               
the Governor  on page 29, which  agreed to work to  help fill the                                                               
public member  position, with a  recommendation for the  board to                                                               
pursue a legislative fix to  those restrictive requirements.  She                                                               
noted  that  the Department  of  Commerce,  Community &  Economic                                                               
Development  response was  on page  31, and  that the  department                                                               
agreed  that  additional  checks  were necessary  to  ensure  the                                                               
administrative record  was complete.   The department  added that                                                               
additional supervisory resources were  necessary to help meet the                                                               
standards.  She addressed the  response from the Board of Massage                                                               
Therapists  on   page  33,  recounting  an   agreement  with  the                                                               
conclusions and recommendations.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON  questioned where the  documentation and                                                               
applications were housed as the board did not have an office.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CURTIS explained  that, for  this audit,  the applicant  was                                                               
going  to a  certified person  for fingerprinting,  and then  the                                                               
fingerprint card  was given  back to  the applicant  for mailing.                                                               
She declared that this problematic,  as it allowed for tampering.                                                               
She added  that she was  not aware  of the final  destination for                                                               
these cards.   She said that Representative  Josephson would need                                                               
to direct his question to the department.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL asked  for  verification that  prior to  the                                                               
formation of the Board, a massage  therapist was not able to bill                                                               
an  insurance  company,  but  that the  Board  now  enabled  that                                                               
billing.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. CURTIS offered her understanding  that previously the massage                                                               
therapists had  to work through another  health care professional                                                               
to bill insurance.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL  asked why there was  a recurring requirement                                                               
for the submission of fingerprints.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CURTIS  reported  that  this  requirement  was  helpful  for                                                               
combatting human trafficking and the  problems from the sex trade                                                               
industry and she offered her belief that this was not unusual.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOOL  mused that anyone operating  illegally would                                                               
not register  or submit their  fingerprints and pointed  out that                                                               
there was  not a requirement  for fingerprints when  purchasing a                                                               
gun.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KNOPP   asked  if  massage   establishments  were                                                               
licensed  and  if it  was  necessary  to  be a  licensed  massage                                                               
therapist to own a massage establishment.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CURTIS   replied  that  there   was  interest  in   the  law                                                               
enforcement  community for  licensing  massage establishments  to                                                               
help combat human  trafficking, although, she opined,  it was not                                                               
a current requirement.   She pointed out that  this would require                                                               
a statutory change.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:35:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SARA  CHAMBERS,  Deputy  Director,  Juneau  Office,  Division  of                                                               
Corporations,  Business, and  Professional Licensing,  Department                                                               
of  Commerce, Community  & Economic  Development, in  response to                                                               
the question regarding licensing  of massage establishments, said                                                               
that these establishments  were not licensed, although  it was of                                                               
keen interest to law enforcement.   She offered her belief that a                                                               
bill was to be introduced to address this.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KITO noted that she was referencing proposed HB 110.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. CHAMBERS  reported that  all the documents  were kept  in the                                                               
Department   of  Commerce,   Community  &   Economic  Development                                                               
offices, and on a secure data  base.  She said that any necessary                                                               
files were  transferred electronically to  the board.   She noted                                                               
that, as  a review by the  FBI suggested that the  system was not                                                               
secure, a  new system  had been  put in place  which met  all the                                                               
standards.  She acknowledged that  a primary reason for the board                                                               
had  been  to  allow  for   billing  to  insurance  when  working                                                               
independently.   She  stated  that this  was  the only  licensing                                                               
program  which  required  fingerprinting upon  every  renewal,  a                                                               
higher standard than any of the other licensing boards.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL questioned  having the  burden on  the board                                                               
members for illicit activity associated with the profession.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CHAMBERS relayed  that  this was  the  determination by  the                                                               
legislature when authorizing the board.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:40:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID  EDWARDS-SMITH, Chair,  Board of  Massage Therapists,  said                                                               
that  a lot  had been  accomplished with  the partnership  of the                                                               
division  since the  first board  meeting  in January  2015.   He                                                               
noted that  this was  the first  sunset audit,  that it  was very                                                               
positive, and the board was in support  of it.  He added that the                                                               
board was moving from its  "start-up version of the board" toward                                                               
board  operations.    He  posed   whether  it  was  necessary  or                                                               
important to have a board and  then stated that the real question                                                               
was:  "How  can we not have  a Board of Massage  Therapists?"  He                                                               
pointed  to the  diversity of  techniques in  the profession  and                                                               
stated that it  took a board of professionals  with experience in                                                               
the field to "be able to  navigate this diversity because we need                                                               
to be able to put those  techniques into context of the standards                                                               
and practice and code of  ethics that massage therapists are held                                                               
to."  He said that these  standards assured the public that there                                                               
was  a process  in place.    He stated  the board  also put  into                                                               
context these standards  in a variety of  settings, including spa                                                               
settings,  chiropractic clinics,  physical  therapy clinics,  and                                                               
airports.  He  reported that a look at the  science of radiology,                                                               
cardiology,  and  others  revealed  a  lot  of  funding  for  the                                                               
practice of  these sciences, whereas,  massage therapy  was still                                                               
an  emerging   science  with   different  education   and  career                                                               
opportunities as  the profession changed.   He reported  that the                                                               
board had reviewed  1,400 licenses, and that about  30 percent of                                                               
those   licenses  had   yes  answers   to  professional   fitness                                                               
questions.  He pointed out that,  during the tenure of the board,                                                               
there had been four different licensing examiners.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:44:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VOLKER  HRUBY, President,  American  Massage Therapy  Association                                                               
(AMTA)  -  Alaska  Chapter,  said  that he  had  been  a  massage                                                               
therapist  for 13  years, working  in the  spa industry,  medical                                                               
massage, and  private practice.   He noted that the  recent audit                                                               
pointed  out  that  having a  regulatory  board  allowed  massage                                                               
therapists to establish themselves  as health care professionals,                                                               
bill health insurance, create a legal  way for the public to file                                                               
a  complaint, give  voice  to  the public  over  the practice  of                                                               
massage therapy, and hold  massage therapists accountable through                                                               
licensure.   He  offered  his  belief that  the  board should  be                                                               
extended for these same reasons.   He pointed out that Department                                                               
of Commerce,  Community &  Economic Development  (DCCED) provided                                                               
administrative   support  for   the  board.     He   offered  his                                                               
understanding that failure  to pass HB 275  would necessitate the                                                               
duties  of the  board  revert to  the  Division of  Corporations,                                                               
Business, and  Professional Licensing in  DCCED.  He  opined that                                                               
the division did  not possess the capacity  or specific expertise                                                               
that the the massage therapists  serving on the board brought for                                                               
oversight in the industry.  He  offered his belief that the board                                                               
had done "an  excellent job of enacting  regulations to implement                                                               
statutes in  a short time  period."   He reported that  the board                                                               
had  issued   1,186  new  licenses,  almost   double  the  number                                                               
projected.  He  lauded the board members, pointing  out that each                                                               
of  them  was  committed  to  improvement  for  any  shortcomings                                                               
outlined  in the  [sunset]  audit.   He  stated  support for  the                                                               
proposed bill  and declared his  firm belief that to  fulfill the                                                               
mission  of  the  board  to provide  public  safety  for  massage                                                               
consumers  and   to  regulate  the  profession   by  setting  and                                                               
maintaining industry  standards, the Board of  Massage Therapists                                                               
must be extended.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KITO stated that HB 180 would be postponed.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:48:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KITO opened public testimony on HB 275.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:48:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KIM VERREYDT shared her experience  as a health care provider for                                                               
almost 30 years,  as a massage therapist and  a flight paramedic.                                                               
She declared her  support of HB 275.  She  stated her belief that                                                               
all health care professionals should be regulated.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:49:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JANE GNASS  stated that she  had been licensed  massage therapist                                                               
for 20  years and that  she was  both state and  nationally board                                                               
certified.    She declared her  support for the extension  of the                                                               
termination  date  of  the  Board of  Massage  Therapists.    She                                                               
emphasized that  the Board  ensured "consistent  and professional                                                               
standards," and that it helped to "elevate our profession."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:51:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JILL MOTZ reported that she  currently held positions on both the                                                               
state  Board  of  Massage  Therapists  and  the  Alaska  American                                                               
Massage  Therapy  Association  boards   and  that  she  had  been                                                               
practicing  massage   therapy  since   2003.    She   shared  her                                                               
background  working as  a massage  therapist.   She declared  her                                                               
support  for HB  275, stating  that it  was "excellent  for small                                                               
businesses,  communities,   therapists,  and   most  importantly,                                                               
consumers."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WOOL asked  if  the  fingerprint requirement  was                                                               
burdensome.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. MOTZ  replied that  this requirement  was often  discussed at                                                               
board meetings  and that there  had been attempts to  change this                                                               
requirement to once every three cycles.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:53:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
YAEL HICKOK  stated that she  had been a massage  therapist since                                                               
1999.   She declared that she  was against HB 275.   Although she                                                               
supported  the  licensing  for massage  therapists,  she  opposed                                                               
extending the board.   She added that the  licensing was helpful,                                                               
especially for  the ability to  bill insurance and  allow massage                                                               
therapists  to be  independent.   She  noted  that, although  the                                                               
licensing was supposed to reduce  crime and sex trafficking, that                                                               
had not been  proven to happen.  She declared  that the licensing                                                               
fees  were ridiculous,  and she  listed  the various  fees.   She                                                               
stated  that it  did  not make  sense to  have  to repeatedly  be                                                               
fingerprinted.   She  expressed  her support  for the  licensing,                                                               
even as  there was  not a  need for  the board.   She  shared the                                                               
results of a  Facebook survey of massage therapists,  in which 44                                                               
percent of the 121 respondents  said they wanted to eliminate the                                                               
board and continue  licensing, while 24 percent  said they wanted                                                               
to continue licensing  as it was, 14 percent said  they wanted to                                                               
eliminate licensing, and 18 percent said  they did not know.  She                                                               
added that she had not shared  her own opinion during the survey.                                                               
She declared that the survey  and responses on Facebook indicated                                                               
that many of the massage  therapists were unhappy with the board,                                                               
with many complaints for the  amount of time necessary to receive                                                               
a  license.   She shared  that communication  with the  board had                                                               
been problematic, reporting that she  had never been notified for                                                               
the scheduling of  a meeting.  She emphasized that  the board had                                                               
a responsibility  to represent the  licensees.  She  offered that                                                               
it was a possibility  to have a board at some  future date if the                                                               
massage  therapists were  more involved  in the  creation of  the                                                               
board, noting  that the  idea for licensing  without a  board had                                                               
not been  discussed.  She  reported that  her fees cost  her more                                                               
than a month's wages, which she deemed to be inexcusable.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:00:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KITO announced that HB 275 would be held over.                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB274 Sponsor Statement.pdf HL&C 1/22/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 274
HB274A.PDF HL&C 1/22/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 274
HB274 Legislative Audit 10.5.17.pdf HL&C 1/22/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 274
HB273 Sponsor Statement 01.19.18.pdf HL&C 1/22/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 273
HB273 Ver D 01.19.18.pdf HL&C 1/22/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 273
HB273 Legislative Audit 01.19.18.pdf HL&C 1/22/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 273
HB275 Version D 01.19.18.pdf HL&C 1/22/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 275
HB275 Sponsor Statement 01.19.18.pdf HL&C 1/22/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 275
HB275 Legislative Audit 10.11.17.pdf HL&C 1/22/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 275
HB180 Fiscal note DCCED-DBS 5.8.17.pdf HL&C 1/22/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 180
HB180 HLC Follow Up 5.15.17.pdf HL&C 1/22/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 180
HB180 Support Document Money Services Act Powerpoint 5.8.17.pdf HL&C 1/22/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 180
HB180 Sectional Analysis 5.2.17.pdf HL&C 1/22/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 180
HB180 ver. A 5.2.17.PDF HL&C 1/22/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 180
HB180 Sponsor Statement 5.2.17.pdf HL&C 1/22/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 180
HB275 Fiscal Note DCCED-CBPL 1.19.18.pdf HL&C 1/22/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 275
HB274 Fiscal Note DCCED-CBPL 1.19.18.pdf HL&C 1/22/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 274
HB273 Fiscal Note DCCED-CBPL 1.19.18.pdf HL&C 1/22/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 273
HB180 Fiscal note DCCED-DBS 1.19.18.pdf HL&C 1/22/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 180
PrepaidAccountsFinalRule CFPB 2016-24503.pdf HL&C 1/22/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 180
HB180 Money Services Business 1.22.18.pdf HL&C 1/22/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 180
HB275 Opposition Letters 01.22.18.pdf HL&C 1/22/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 275
HB275 Support Letters 1.24.18.pdf HL&C 1/22/2018 3:15:00 PM
HB 275