Legislature(2015 - 2016)CAPITOL 120

04/06/2015 01:00 PM JUDICIARY

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-- Delayed to 1:30 p.m. Today --
*+ HB 154 CIVIL LEGAL SERVICES FUND TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Canceled>
+= HB 147 ANIMALS: PROTECTION/RELEASE/CUSTODY TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Canceled>
+ SB 30 MARIJUANA REG;CONT. SUBST;CRIMES;DEFENSES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 123 ESTABLISH MARIJUANA CONTROL BOARD TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         April 6, 2015                                                                                          
                           1:33 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gabrielle LeDoux, Chair                                                                                          
Representative Wes Keller, Vice Chair                                                                                           
Representative Bob Lynn                                                                                                         
Representative Matt Claman                                                                                                      
Representative Neal Foster                                                                                                      
Representative Charisse Millett                                                                                                 
Representative Max Gruenberg                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
Representative Kurt Olson (alternate)                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 123                                                                                                              
"An  Act establishing  the Marijuana  Control Board;  relating to                                                               
the powers  and duties of  the Marijuana Control  Board; relating                                                               
to the  appointment, removal, and  duties of the director  of the                                                               
Marijuana  Control  Board;  relating to  the  Alcoholic  Beverage                                                               
Control Board; and providing for an effective date."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 30(FIN)                                                                                                  
"An   Act  relating   to  controlled   substances;  relating   to                                                               
marijuana; relating  to crimes and offenses  related to marijuana                                                               
and the use of marijuana;  relating to open marijuana containers;                                                               
relating to  established villages and local  options; relating to                                                               
delinquent  minors; making  conforming amendments;  and providing                                                               
for an effective date."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 123                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: ESTABLISH MARIJUANA CONTROL BOARD                                                                                  
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
02/23/15       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
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03/04/15       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
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03/23/15       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
03/23/15       (H)       Scheduled but Not Heard                                                                                
03/23/15       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/23/15       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/23/15       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/27/15       (H)       L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
03/27/15       (H)       Moved  CSHB 123(L&C) Out of Committee                                                                  
03/27/15       (H)       MINUTE(L&C)                                                                                            
03/30/15       (H)       L&C RPT CS(L&C) 1DP 3NR 3AM                                                                            
03/30/15       (H)       DP: OLSON                                                                                              
03/30/15       (H)       NR: TILTON, HUGHES, KITO                                                                               
03/30/15       (H)       AM: LEDOUX, JOSEPHSON, COLVER                                                                          
03/30/15       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
03/30/15       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/30/15       (H)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
04/03/15       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
04/03/15       (H)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
04/06/15       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 30                                                                                                                   
SHORT TITLE: MARIJUANA REG;CONT. SUBST;CRIMES;DEFENSES                                                                          
SPONSOR(s): JUDICIARY                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
01/23/15       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
01/23/15       (S)       JUD, FIN                                                                                               
01/26/15       (S)       JUD AT 1:00 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
01/26/15       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
01/26/15       (S)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
01/28/15       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
01/28/15       (H)       -- Companion Bill --                                                                                   
01/30/15       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
01/30/15       (S)       -- Meeting Postponed to Monday 2/2/2015                                                                
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02/02/15       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
02/02/15       (S)       -- Rescheduled from 01/30/15 --                                                                        
02/05/15       (S)       FIN AT 9:00 AM SENATE FINANCE 532                                                                      
02/05/15       (S)       Scheduled but Not Heard                                                                                
02/06/15       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
02/06/15       (S)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
02/09/15       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
02/09/15       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/09/15       (S)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
02/11/15       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
02/11/15       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/11/15       (S)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
02/13/15       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
02/13/15       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/13/15       (S)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
02/16/15       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
02/16/15       (S)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
02/18/15       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)                                                                      
02/18/15       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/18/15       (S)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
02/20/15       (S)       JUD AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
02/20/15       (S)       Moved  CSSB 30(JUD) Out of Committee                                                                   
02/20/15       (S)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
02/23/15       (S)       JUD RPT CS  1DP 3AM  NEW TITLE                                                                         
02/23/15       (S)       DP: MCGUIRE                                                                                            
02/23/15       (S)       AM: COSTELLO, COGHILL, MICCICHE                                                                        
02/24/15       (S)       FIN AT 9:00 AM SENATE FINANCE 532                                                                      
02/24/15       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/24/15       (S)       MINUTE(FIN)                                                                                            
03/03/15       (S)       FIN AT 9:00 AM SENATE FINANCE 532                                                                      
03/03/15       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/03/15       (S)       MINUTE(FIN)                                                                                            
03/05/15       (S)       FIN AT 9:00 AM SENATE FINANCE 532                                                                      
03/05/15       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/05/15       (S)       MINUTE(FIN)                                                                                            
03/06/15       (S)       FIN AT 9:00 AM SENATE FINANCE 532                                                                      
03/06/15       (S)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
03/09/15       (S)       FIN AT 9:00 AM SENATE FINANCE 532                                                                      
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03/09/15       (S)       FIN AT 1:30 PM SENATE FINANCE 532                                                                      
03/09/15       (S)       Departments: Environmental Conservation                                                                
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03/10/15       (S)       FIN AT 1:30 PM SENATE FINANCE 532                                                                      
03/10/15       (S)       Departments: Environmental Conservation                                                                
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03/11/15       (S)       FIN AT 1:30 PM SENATE FINANCE 532                                                                      
03/11/15       (S)       -- Public Testimony --                                                                                 
03/12/15       (S)       FIN AT 1:30 PM SENATE FINANCE 532                                                                      
03/12/15       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/12/15       (S)       MINUTE(FIN)                                                                                            
03/13/15       (S)       FIN AT 9:00 AM SENATE FINANCE 532                                                                      
03/13/15       (S)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
03/13/15       (S)       FIN AT 1:30 PM SENATE FINANCE 532                                                                      
03/13/15       (S)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/13/15       (S)       MINUTE(FIN)                                                                                            
03/14/15       (S)       FIN AT 10:00 AM SENATE FINANCE 532                                                                     
03/14/15       (S)       -- MEETING CANCELED --                                                                                 
03/18/15       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
03/18/15       (H)       <Bill Hearing Canceled>                                                                                
03/23/15       (S)       FIN RPT CS 1DP 3NR 3AM  NEW TITLE                                                                      
03/23/15       (S)       DP: MACKINNON                                                                                          
03/23/15       (S)       NR: BISHOP, DUNLEAVY, HOFFMAN                                                                          
03/23/15       (S)       AM: KELLY, MICCICHE, OLSON                                                                             
03/23/15       (S)       FIN AT 9:00 AM SENATE FINANCE 532                                                                      
03/23/15       (S)       Moved  CSSB 30(FIN) Out of Committee                                                                   
03/23/15       (S)       MINUTE(FIN)                                                                                            
03/25/15       (S)       FIN CS ADOPTED Y16 N4                                                                                  
03/30/15       (S)       TRANSMITTED TO (H)                                                                                     
03/30/15       (S)       VERSION: CSSB 30(FIN)                                                                                  
03/31/15       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/31/15       (H)       JUD, FIN                                                                                               
04/06/15       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MICAELA FOWLER, Legislative Liaison                                                                                             
Office of the Commissioner                                                                                                      
Department of Commerce, Community, and Economic Development                                                                     
(DCCED)                                                                                                                         
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  During the hearing of CSHB 123, presented                                                                
changes within the committee substitute and answered questions.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CYNTHIA FRANKLIN, Director                                                                                                      
Alcohol Beverage Control Board                                                                                                  
Department of Commerce, Community, and Economic Development                                                                     
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  During the hearing on CSHB 123 offered                                                                   
support for Version N.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
RACHELLE YEUNG, Legislative Analyst                                                                                             
Marijuana Policy Project                                                                                                        
Washington, D.C.                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Offered testimony during the hearing on                                                                  
CSHB 123.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
BRUCE SCHULTE                                                                                                                   
Coalition for Responsible Cannabis Legislation                                                                                  
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Offered testimony regarding CSHB 123.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HARRIET MILKS, Assistant Attorney General                                                                                       
Commercial and Fair Business Section                                                                                            
Department of Law (DOL)                                                                                                         
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  During the hearing on CSHB 123, answered                                                                 
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
AMY SALTZMAN, Staff                                                                                                             
Senator Lesil McGuire                                                                                                           
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  During the hearing for SB 30, explained the                                                              
status of the bill.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
JORDAN SHILLING, Staff                                                                                                          
Senator John Coghill                                                                                                            
Alaska State Legislature, Juneau, Alaska                                                                                        
POSITION STATEMENT:  During the hearing of SB 30, explained                                                                   
Version T.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CYNTHIA FRANKLIN, Director                                                                                                      
Alcoholic Beverage Control Board (ABC Board)                                                                                    
Department of Commerce, Community, and Economic Development                                                                     
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  During the hearing of SB 30, answered                                                                    
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DOLLYNDA PHELPS                                                                                                                 
Kenai, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the hearing of SB 30.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JASON HOWARD                                                                                                                    
Soldatna, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  During the hearing on SB 30, offered his                                                                 
concerns.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
RACHELLE YEUNG                                                                                                                  
Marijuana Policy Project                                                                                                        
Washington, D.C.                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the hearing of SB 30.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:33:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GABRIELLE  LEDOUX  called  the  House  Judiciary  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting to order at  1:33 p.m.  Representatives Keller,                                                               
Lynn,  Claman, and  LeDoux were  present  at the  call to  order.                                                               
Representatives  Gruenberg, Foster,  and Millett  arrived as  the                                                               
meeting was in progress.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:33:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX  clarified that there are  two versions of SB  30 in                                                               
that version  "T" came out  of the  Senate and is  much different                                                               
from  version  "Q" which  came  out  of  Senate Judiciary.    She                                                               
explained that while there are  many similarities between the two                                                               
versions,  they  exemplify  two  very  different  strategies  for                                                               
legalization.  She  advised that during this  meeting the members                                                               
will  be  briefed on  the  two  different  roads that  these  two                                                               
different versions of  SB 30 travel, their  implications, and the                                                               
options  before  this committee  assuming  there  is enough  time                                                               
after HB 123.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
            HB 123-ESTABLISH MARIJUANA CONTROL BOARD                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:34:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX announced that the  first order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 123, "An  Act establishing the  Marijuana Control                                                               
Board;  relating  to  the  powers and  duties  of  the  Marijuana                                                               
Control Board;  relating to the appointment,  removal, and duties                                                               
of the director  of the Marijuana Control Board;  relating to the                                                               
Alcoholic Beverage Control Board;  and providing for an effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:35:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KELLER  moved  to  adopt CSHB  123,  version  29-                                                               
GH1110\N, Martin,  4/3/15 as the  working document.   There being                                                               
no objection, version "N" was before the committee.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:35:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICAELA FOWLER, Legislative Liaison,  Office of the Commissioner,                                                               
Department  of  Commerce,  Community,  and  Economic  Development                                                               
(DCCED), said that version N  represents several changes from the                                                               
prior version.   She explained  that Sec.  3 has been  amended to                                                               
clarify  and  put  into  statute  the  intent  that  the  Alcohol                                                               
Beverage  Control Board  (ABC Board)  and  the Marijuana  Control                                                               
Board would meet  right after each other in sharing  staff.  Sec.                                                               
7, is a  new section which places the Marijuana  Control Board on                                                               
a list of entities whose hearings  are conducted by the Office of                                                               
Administrative Hearings.   Sec. 9, is the  transition language of                                                               
which is the  most substantive change in this version  in that it                                                               
changes  what  is  considered  experience   for  members  of  the                                                               
marijuana  industry during  the initial  formation of  the board.                                                               
Previously, the  bill required  that two  members of  the alcohol                                                               
industry serve  the initial  board term.   She explained  that in                                                               
version  N,  it  is  two  members  who  have  experience  in  the                                                               
marijuana industry  obtained through lawful participation  in the                                                               
marijuana industry,  or participation in an  academic or advocacy                                                               
role relating to the marijuana industry.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:38:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CYNTHIA  FRANKLIN,  Director,  Alcohol  Beverage  Control  Board,                                                               
Department  of  Commerce,  Community, and  Economic  Development,                                                               
said  the ABC  Board supports  the version  going forward  as Ms.                                                               
Fowler indicated, and she does not  have anything to add to prior                                                               
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:39:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RACHELLE  YEUNG, Legislative  Analyst, Marijuana  Policy Project,                                                               
said she  is speaking on  behalf of the Marijuana  Policy Project                                                               
and the Campaign to Regulate  Marijuana like Alcohol.  She opined                                                               
that the  current committee substitute  is a much  better version                                                               
than   previously  and   offered  a   suggestion  regarding   the                                                               
composition  of  the  potential  board members.    She  said  the                                                               
concern  is  to  ensure  that   people  with  the  most  relevant                                                               
expertise  not  be  excluded,  and  that  members  of  the  board                                                               
implementing this law  actually do support the law  passed by the                                                               
voters.  She pointed out that  within the version it appears that                                                               
persons  with only  one year  of  experience in  either of  those                                                               
professions would qualify, while a  person retired from a decades                                                               
long career in either of those  fields, or has moved their career                                                               
to a  private university  or other  non-profit public  sector may                                                               
not.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  YEUNG  responded to  Representative  Gruenberg  that she  is                                                               
referring to  Sec. 2, [AS  17.38.080] page 2, lines  15-16, which                                                               
read:                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          (1) one person from the public safety sector;                                                                         
          (2) one person from the public health sector;                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. YEUNG  explained that it  initially lays out  the composition                                                               
of the board,  one person from the public safety  sector, and one                                                               
person  from the  public health  sector.   Her recommendation  is                                                               
that those  two positions  allow someone who  is a  former public                                                               
health or public safety official to apply.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:43:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG referred  to [Sec. 9], page  7, lines 2-                                                               
5, which read:                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     (b)  Notwithstanding AS  17.38.080(b)(4)  and (5),  the                                                                    
     governor,  in making  the initial  appointments to  the                                                                    
     Marijuana  Control  Board,  shall appoint  two  persons                                                                    
     with  experience  in  the marijuana  industry  obtained                                                                    
     through lawful participation  in the marijuana industry                                                                    
     or  participation  in  an  academic  or  advocacy  role                                                                    
     relating to the marijuana industry.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  offered that  the above  language would                                                               
clarify the fact that the person  could be in the industry now or                                                               
have  experience in  it.   He said  that the  intent is  to allow                                                               
anyone with experience.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:44:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. YEUNG pointed to Sec. 2,  [AS 17.38.080] page 3, lines 14-20,                                                               
which read:                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
          (4) "public health sector" means a state,                                                                             
     federal,  or  local entity  that  works  to ensure  the                                                                    
     health and  safety of  persons and  communities through                                                                    
     education,  policymaking, treatment  and prevention  of                                                                    
     injury and disease, and promotion of wellness;                                                                             
          (5) "public safety sector" means a state,                                                                             
     federal,  or  local   law  enforcement  authority  that                                                                    
     provides for the welfare and  protection of the general                                                                    
     public through the enforcement of applicable laws;                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  YEUNG recommended  that the  board members  not be  selected                                                               
from  a  professional  involved  in  a  federal  law  enforcement                                                               
capacity or  a federal public  safety capacity given that  all of                                                               
the  conduct the  board will  write  laws for  are illegal  under                                                               
federal  law.    She  recommended   that  all  board  members  be                                                               
committed to  safely implementing  the initiative given  that the                                                               
board  will  be  responsible  for implementing  this  law.    She                                                               
expressed that it is important  all members of the board actually                                                               
support the initiative or are  committed to regulating and taxing                                                               
marijuana as  the voters intended.   She submitted  that allowing                                                               
the possible inclusion  of hostile board members  who could favor                                                               
unlawful  delays  which  would  likely  lead  to  litigation  and                                                               
reduced faith in the government.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:47:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  referred  to   her  last  comment  and                                                               
surmised  that she  prefers a  provision  in the  law that  these                                                               
board  members  support  the  law   or  support  the  concept  of                                                               
legalizing marijuana.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. YEUNG clarified  that she meant that the  person appointed to                                                               
serve on  the board supports  the implementation of the  law even                                                               
if they do not support the legalization themselves.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:48:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT  asked whether  Ms. Yeung would  also like                                                               
federal taken out of the definition for public health sector.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. YEUNG  answered "That  is correct."   She  then added  to her                                                               
response to  Representative Gruenberg that  if the bill  were not                                                               
to explicitly  state that persons  serving on this  board support                                                               
the initiative, that  they be required to state  their support in                                                               
response to a question on the application form.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:49:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   LEDOUX   related   that   she   understands   Ms.   Yeung                                                               
recommendation, but on  the other hand it is as  though Ms. Yeung                                                               
is  requiring a  loyal oath.   She  opined that  they do  not ask                                                               
people, or put  it into statute, that someone serving  on a board                                                               
must be  in favor of  something.   She described [the  action] as                                                               
implied that  a person does their  best to fulfill the  duties of                                                               
the board.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:49:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT expressed  that  she  could not  perceive                                                               
someone applying for  a board position and  vehemently oppose the                                                               
position of  the board.   She  surmised that  a person  wishes to                                                               
serve  on  a  board  because   they  desire  to  see  that  board                                                               
implemented in a correct manner.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX   pointed  out  that   the  board  is   subject  to                                                               
legislative  approval so  someone  along the  line  will ask  the                                                               
question or it  would come out if someone was  attempting to join                                                               
the board because their intention was to railroad it.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:50:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG offered  that  Chair LeDoux's  comments                                                               
might  also  go to  the  issue  of  deleting the  word  "federal"                                                               
because  a federal  person would  not be  appointed if  they were                                                               
basically  opposed.   He  said  he  hesitates to  delete  federal                                                               
because SB 30  will be on the  books for a while  and the federal                                                               
law may be modified.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:51:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRUCE  SCHULTE, Coalition  for Responsible  Cannabis Legislation,                                                               
referred to  [Sec. 3,  AS 17.38.084] page  4, lines  15-16, which                                                               
read:                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          (a) The board shall control the cultivation,                                                                          
     manufacture, possession, and sale of marijuana in the                                                                      
     state.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SCHULTE  remarked that  the  word  "control" could  be  more                                                               
appropriately  replaced with  the  word "regulate."   He  further                                                               
remarked that  the word "possession"  might be stricken  from the                                                               
sentence entirely because the board  is actually charged with the                                                               
regulation  of cultivation,  manufacture, and  sale of  marijuana                                                               
and not personal possession.   He stated that personal possession                                                               
is dealt with under statute with the passage of the initiative.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:54:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX  closed public testimony  after ascertaining  no one                                                               
further wished to testify.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:54:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG referred  to  [Sec.  3, AS  17.38.084],                                                               
page 4, lines 18-19, which read:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     (b) The board shall                                                                                                        
          (1) propose and adopt regulations;                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GRUENBERG   asked   whether  the   adoption   of                                                               
regulations would be under the Administrative Procedures Act.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. FOWLER replied "Yes."                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG   asked  where   in  the  bill   it  is                                                               
specifically listed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:55:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HARRIET MILKS,  Assistant Attorney  General, Commercial  and Fair                                                               
Business  Section,  Department  of  Law (DOL),  opined  that  the                                                               
language is  in the initiative  and [Sec.  10], on page  7, lines                                                               
12-15, which read:                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
          (b) The Marijuana Control Board, established                                                                          
     under AS  17.38.080, as repealed and  reenacted by sec.                                                                    
     2  of  this Act,  may  adopt  regulations necessary  to                                                                    
     implement  the   changes  made  by   this  Act.     The                                                                    
     regulations take effect  under AS 44.62 (Administrative                                                                    
     Procedures Act),  but not before the  effective date of                                                                    
     this Act.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:56:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG commented that if  the board is going to                                                               
operate  under the  Administrative Procedures  Act it  should not                                                               
just be  in a  transitional section as  it has to  be put  in the                                                               
body of the bill in permanent law.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. FOWLER noted  that is a legitimate concern and  could not see                                                               
any reason it could not happen.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:57:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  FRANKLIN  interjected  that AS  17.38.090(a)(1)  within  the                                                               
voter's  initiative  provides that  all  of  the regulations  are                                                               
subject  to the  requirements  of  the Administrative  Procedures                                                               
Act.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:57:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT  referred back to the  discussion with Mr.                                                               
Schulte  regarding page  4, lines  15-16, and  asked whether  Ms.                                                               
Milks had  a problem  with changing  "control" to  "regulate" and                                                               
deleting "possession."                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:58:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MILKS   replied  that  the  language,   including  the  word                                                               
"control" comes from Title 4,  and it is not absolutely necessary                                                               
that the word be "control."   She explained that elsewhere in the                                                               
initiative,  and in  this bill,  it is  clear that  the Marijuana                                                               
Control Board  would regulate marijuana.   As to  possession, she                                                               
remarked,  there  could  be  circumstances  where  possession  of                                                               
marijuana  would   be  inconsistent   with  the   marijuana  laws                                                               
currently  being  drafted,  but   certainly  some  possession  is                                                               
protected under the Alaska State Constitution and under case law                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT argued that  possession of marijuana would                                                               
not be something  a board would be concerned with,  as that would                                                               
be under  the Department of  Law or Department of  Public Safety.                                                               
She  questioned   why  marijuana  would  be   regulated  under  a                                                               
possession issue when it would  be under the Department of Public                                                               
Safety to ticket or regulate.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:59:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MILKS  responded that  it  depends  upon  the scope  of  the                                                               
regulation that  is anticipated for the  Marijuana Control Board.                                                               
In the event  the Marijuana Control Board is  anticipated to have                                                               
enforcement  powers,   it  could  conceivably   regulate  certain                                                               
circumstances  of  possession.   For  example,  she pointed  out,                                                               
there are circumstance  where the board would  regulate more than                                                               
a  certain  number  of  plants   in  a  person's  possession,  or                                                               
possessing marijuana  while transporting  it from  a manufacturer                                                               
to a retail establishment, or a cultivator to a producer.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT related that she  has an issue because the                                                               
board  is not  the  Department of  Public  Safety, therefore,  it                                                               
shouldn't be  ticketing on possession  issues and  that according                                                               
to the  initiative the  board is to  control the  manufacture and                                                               
sale of marijuana,  not the possession.  She  highlighted that if                                                               
the  board had  a problem  with possession  wouldn't it  call the                                                               
Department  of Public  Safety who  could enforce  it.   She asked                                                               
whether the bill is giving  powers of enforcement and whether the                                                               
board would  now be monitoring  possession.  In that  regard, she                                                               
noted,  there  would be  two  types  of enforcement  through  the                                                               
Department  of  Public  Safety  law  and  through  the  Marijuana                                                               
Control Board.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:01:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MILKS  referred  to  [Sec.   3,  AS  17.38.085,  Enforcement                                                               
powers], page 5, lines 16-23, which read:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     The  director   and  the   persons  employed   for  the                                                                    
     administration  and  enforcement  of the  chapter  may,                                                                    
     with  the concurrence  of  the  commissioner of  public                                                                    
     safety,  exercise the  powers  of  peace officers  when                                                                    
     those  powers are  specifically granted  by the  board.                                                                    
     Powers granted by  the board under this  section may be                                                                    
     exercised only  when necessary  for the  enforcement of                                                                    
     the criminally  punishable provisions of  this chapter,                                                                    
     other  criminal  statutes  relating  to  substances  or                                                                    
     activities regulated  or permitted under  this chapter,                                                                    
     regulations   of  the   board,  and   other  criminally                                                                    
     punishable laws and regulations relating to marijuana.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILKS  said this paragraph  gives certain  enforcement powers                                                               
to the Marijuana Control Board.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:01:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  FRANKLIN  responded  to   Representative  Millett  that  the                                                               
language reflects the  direct copy of language the  ABC Board has                                                               
regarding control  of alcohol.   The ABC  Board does  control the                                                               
possession  of  alcohol  because  if  the  board  is  limited  to                                                               
controlling  only those  individuals who  have licenses  then the                                                               
board's authority  has been  taken away  to shut  down commercial                                                               
enterprises without  licenses.  With  regard to marijuana,  it is                                                               
important when thinking  about the term possession  in that there                                                               
is  a distinction  between personal  possession, which  is in  AS                                                               
17.38.020,  and  what the  voters  intended  with regard  to  the                                                               
sanctity  of personal  possession  of marijuana.   She  explained                                                               
that  in this  case the  discussion  is in  a commercial  context                                                               
where  someone opens  a commercial  marijuana enterprise  without                                                               
following the  rules, without  getting a  license of  which there                                                               
are  already three  examples of  facilities  in the  state.   She                                                               
described the  situation that without enforcement  authority this                                                               
board is unable to act on  something that it was clearly expected                                                               
to  act  on.    She   further  described  that  when  a  business                                                               
advertises  it is  delivering marijuana  the ABC  Board gets  the                                                               
call to shut  that place down because the  individuals who intend                                                               
to apply  for licenses want  to see  everyone on a  level playing                                                               
field. She  opined that it is  very important in the  alcohol and                                                               
marijuana  industry   that  the   board  have   that  enforcement                                                               
authority.   She stated that separate  enforcement really doesn't                                                               
work in real  life as the ABC Board has  five officers statewide,                                                               
and is proposed to be  eight officers statewide with the addition                                                               
of this  substance.  She  noted that  the board works  with local                                                               
law  enforcement  to  ascertain  that  everyone  operating  in  a                                                               
commercial context  is regulated,  is subject  to the  rules, and                                                               
has  a  license.   She  reiterated  that should  the  legislature                                                               
determine  that  the  board  only  has  authority  over  licensed                                                               
business it  completely does away  with the ability of  the board                                                               
to shut  down anyone who  tries to sell  without a license.   She                                                               
further reiterated  that in this  case, possession  is commercial                                                               
possession,  and the  language is  a duplication  of the  type of                                                               
control the ABC Board has over alcohol.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:05:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX asked  whether the  businesses would  be shut  down                                                               
when someone calls law enforcement and everyone is arrested.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.   FRANKLIN   said  (indisc.)   where   in   the  state   this                                                               
establishment is located  and its priorities.   She described the                                                               
situation  as  frustrating  because   law  enforcement  then  has                                                               
confusion about  what they are  and are not  allowed to do.   She                                                               
emphasized that  the board and  the board's  enforcement officers                                                               
are supposedly the de facto experts  of what is and isn't allowed                                                               
whether it  be around alcohol or  marijuana.  She said  she finds                                                               
herself advising local law enforcement  officers or troopers that                                                               
certain people  need to be shut  down because the board  does not                                                               
have the  ability to do  it themselves.   On those  occasions, it                                                               
depends  upon that  law enforcement  agency's priorities  as many                                                               
times  their  priorities  are shootings,  stabbings,  rapes,  and                                                               
murders.    In  that  regard, if  the  establishment  dealing  in                                                               
marijuana doesn't  rise high  enough on  their priority  list ...                                                               
why not get the kind of action  the state needs in the time frame                                                               
needed on an establishment like that.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:07:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT  asked  that absent  a  decriminalization                                                               
piece  of legislation,  how would  Ms. Franklin  regulate from  a                                                               
board  if there  are  no possession  limits,  plants limits,  and                                                               
anything set  in stone ...  how does  the board go  forward until                                                               
the legislature  gets to a  point next  session where there  is a                                                               
decriminalization bill.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:07:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. FRANKLIN answered that in the  event there is not a Marijuana                                                               
Control Board,  it would default  to the  ABC Board and  it would                                                               
use  the  rules  currently  existing  in Title  4,  in  terms  of                                                               
enforcement authorities and powers.   AS 17.38 does provides some                                                               
guidance  regarding a  personal  grow versus  a commercial  grow.                                                               
She explained that  the board has been using current  case law to                                                               
interpret  the   law  the  courts  have   generated  around  what                                                               
constitutes  possession,   joint  possession,   and  constructive                                                               
possession.   She related that  the ABC  Board would like  to see                                                               
the legislature  act, but  the board will  take the  framework of                                                               
the  initiative and  move forward  as  best they  can until  next                                                               
session.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:09:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT asked  whether the  ABC Board  can arrest                                                               
people.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. FRANKLIN  responded that  the ABC  Board has  police officers                                                               
who  hold special  commissions from  the  commissioner of  public                                                               
safety and  have the  ability to make  arrests.   She highlighted                                                               
that  their enforcement  ability  is in  Title  4, AS  04.06.110,                                                               
which   limits   them   to  enforcing   rules   around   alcohol,                                                               
prostitution, and gambling as they  relate to alcohol.  She noted                                                               
there is  a section for  other criminally  punishable provisions.                                                               
In the  event no legislation  is forthcoming, the ABC  Board will                                                               
work  with  the  Department  of   Public  Safety,  regarding  the                                                               
commissions, to ascertain  that it has authority  to regulate the                                                               
substance in the  manner the voters intended, as set  forth in AS                                                               
17.38, she advised.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:10:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FOSTER  referred to  [Sec. 2, AS  17.38.080], page                                                               
2, lines 30-31, which read:                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
       (e) The rural member of the board shall reside or                                                                        
      have resided in a rural area for not fewer than 180                                                                       
     days within the five years preceding appointment.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FOSTER said it appears  to him that a person could                                                               
have spent  six months in a  prior five years and  not six months                                                               
in each of the prior five years.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILKS responded  that his reading was correct as  it would be                                                               
six  months  within the  total  period  of five  years  preceding                                                               
appointment.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FOSTER  noted that the  above issue is an  area of                                                               
concern for him.  He referred  to [Sec. 2, AS 17.38.080], page 3,                                                               
lines 21-22, which read:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
           (6) "rural area" means a community with a                                                                            
       population of 6,000 or less as determined under AS                                                                       
     29.60860(c).                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FOSTER   extended  that  Bethel,  Alaska   has  a                                                               
population  of 6,080,  and  it  is very  much  a  rural area  and                                                               
suggested pumping it up a bit.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:12:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN  referred to  page 4,  line 15,  "The board                                                               
shall  control  the cultivation,  manufacture  ..."  and said  he                                                               
understands "control" is in the  ABC Board statute and questioned                                                               
whether there a problem changing the word to "regulate."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MILKS  explained  that the  word  "control"  here  certainly                                                               
encompasses   regulate.     She  remarked   that  in   the  event                                                               
enforcement powers  are given  to the  board as  something beyond                                                               
just regulate,  it would have  the ability to  go in and  say "we                                                               
are shutting  you down,  we're taking  your marijuana  plants, or                                                               
we're  impounding  them,  or  whatever the  response  is."    She                                                               
expressed that control  is a broader range of  response than just                                                               
regulate.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:13:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  FRANKLIN commented  that the  voters decided  that should  a                                                               
separate  board  be created  it  would  be called  the  Marijuana                                                               
Control  Board, and  she believes  it is  disingenuous to  say it                                                               
didn't mean control.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:13:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  referred   to  an  earlier  discussion                                                               
regarding enforcement  powers under AS 17.38.085,  page 5, [lines                                                               
16-23] and asked whether there  should be a provision that before                                                               
the employees of the board  exercise the duties of peace officers                                                               
that they  are trained and  certified in  some manner.   He asked                                                               
whether  there  should  be authorization  or  a  requirement  for                                                               
training and certification.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. FRANKLIN  answered that currently the  requirement that those                                                               
employees are  peace officers is  in their job description.   The                                                               
minimum qualifications  for those jobs  are written so  that they                                                               
are police officers, and then  they receive a commission from the                                                               
Department of Public Safety.  She  opined that there are a couple                                                               
of safeguards  in place currently  that protect against  the idea                                                               
of  the  department just  hiring  someone  without experience  or                                                               
qualification and  putting them  into this  enforcement position.                                                               
The  applicants must  meet the  minimum qualifications  under the                                                               
administrations  requirement for  getting the  job, and  then the                                                               
commissioner of  public safety has  an additional  opportunity to                                                               
review their qualification, she  explained.  She highlighted that                                                               
should the commissioner of public  safety decline to commission a                                                               
person then the  ABC Board would not have the  individual in that                                                               
job.    She noted  that  historically  they have  employed  these                                                               
officers over the  years under the same language in  Title 4, and                                                               
never had an issue with  individuals not being qualified for that                                                               
commission.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:16:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  described his question as  technical as                                                               
to whether language had to be  put into a statute, but it appears                                                               
that for the ABC Board this language is sufficient.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. FRANKLIN responded "Correct."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:16:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  pointed out  that  some  of the  terms                                                               
commented on  are due to the  fact that Title 4,  alcohol control                                                               
statutes were written many years  ago when the drafting style was                                                               
possibly a  bit looser.  He  opined that there may  be a revision                                                               
of those  laws and that  possibly as the phraseology  is updated,                                                               
that conforming  amendments are provided  in order to be  in line                                                               
with modern language.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:17:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX held CSHB 123(CRA) over.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:18:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG said  there had  been technical  issues                                                               
the  witnesses   mentioned  of  which   did  not  appear   to  be                                                               
controversial and asked whether  staff would include those issues                                                               
in the committee substitute.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX advised that staff may include some of the issues.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:19:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CLAMAN related  that  the committee  may want  to                                                               
review page 3,  [line 9], "(2) "immediate family  member" means a                                                               
spouse,  child  or parent."    He  suggested the  description  is                                                               
narrower  than what  is being  applied in  this day  and age  for                                                               
immediate  family members  and that  this was  more a  conceptual                                                               
idea and he didn't have the language.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX  asked that  Representative  Claman  work with  her                                                               
office.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:20:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE    GRUENBERG    referred    to   [Sec.    2,    AS                                                               
17.38.080(h)(6)] page, 3, lines 21-22, which read:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
            (6) "rural area means a community with a                                                                            
       population of 6,000 or less as determined under AS                                                                       
     29.60.860(c).                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  commented that he is  not familiar with                                                               
that statute but believes it  was the subject of extensive debate                                                               
on the House floor in 1985.   The statute discusses monuments and                                                               
"strange" things the committee may want to review.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX  asked that Representative  Gruenberg work  with her                                                               
office.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[HB 123 was held over.]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        SB  30-MARIJUANA REG;CONT. SUBST;CRIMES;DEFENSES                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:21:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX announced that the  final order of business would be                                                               
Senate  CS FOR  SENATE  BILL  NO. 30(FIN),  "An  Act relating  to                                                               
controlled substances; relating to  marijuana; relating to crimes                                                               
and  offenses related  to  marijuana and  the  use of  marijuana;                                                               
relating to  open marijuana  containers; relating  to established                                                               
villages  and  local  options;  relating  to  delinquent  minors;                                                               
making  conforming amendments;  and  providing  for an  effective                                                               
date." [Before the committee were SB 30, Versions Q and T.]                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:21:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KELLER moved  to  adopt HCSCSSB  30, Version  29-                                                               
LS0231\Q, Martin,  4/3/15 as the  working document.   There being                                                               
no objection, Version Q was before the committee.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX  announced that Version  Q and [Version T]  would be                                                               
discussed during the meeting.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:22:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX responded  to  Representative Gruenberg's  question                                                               
and reiterated  that the  committee would  hear the  two versions                                                               
and compare each.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:23:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AMY  SALTZMAN,  Staff,  Senator Lesil  McGuire,  referred  to  an                                                               
earlier version  [N] of  which there was  a House  companion, and                                                               
stated  it  offered  an affirmative  defense  approach  and  that                                                               
concerns were  expressed because it  was at odds with  the intent                                                               
of the  initiative.   She offered  that creating  a defense  to a                                                               
legal activity would cause the  expense of avoiding punishment or                                                               
avoiding  prosecution to  the person  participating  in a  lawful                                                               
marijuana  activity.   The  Senate  Judiciary Standing  Committee                                                               
found these concerns  to be persuasive and redrafted  the bill to                                                               
assure that the  activities addressed in the  initiative would be                                                               
affirmatively legal and removed  them from controlled substances.                                                               
She  advised  it was  the  only  other  option presented  to  the                                                               
committee  by  Legislative Legal  and  Research  Services at  the                                                               
time,  and  later they  offered  another  approach found  in  the                                                               
Senate  Finance  Committee  version.    She  explained  that  the                                                               
substantive   sections,   where    crimes   were   created   with                                                               
implementation of the initiative, are  in Secs. 44-51.  She noted                                                               
that  several different  crimes were  created, and  were followed                                                               
through in the Senate Finance  Committee of are mirrored with the                                                               
intent  of  the  Senate  Judiciary Standing  Committee,  to  some                                                               
degree.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:25:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JORDAN SHILLING, Staff, Senator  John Coghill, explained that the                                                               
Senate   Finance  Committee   added  marijuana   back  into   the                                                               
controlled  substance  schedules.     He  offered  that  when  an                                                               
affirmative  defense   approach  was  attempted  in   the  Senate                                                               
Judiciary Standing Committee  it met with vocal  opposition.  The                                                               
committee was advised by Legislative  Legal and Research Services                                                               
that rather than  rely on an affirmative defense, to  put it back                                                               
into   the  controlled   substance  schedule   and  use   a  non-                                                               
applicability provision to say that  the conduct is allowed under                                                               
the initiative.   He explained that local  option provisions were                                                               
included, essentially opting out  by default established villages                                                               
in the  unorganized borough  and giving  them the  possibility of                                                               
opting in.   He further explained  that changes were made  to the                                                               
open container law.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:27:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX surmised that, under  the current SB 30, places like                                                               
the unorganized borough  would be able to have  a marijuana shop,                                                               
but if it  was not in an established village  it wouldn't be able                                                               
to have anything along the road system.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHILLING responded  that the provision is that  only those in                                                               
an established  village can opt  in for the commercial  side, and                                                               
everything else in  the unorganized borough is opted  out with no                                                               
provision to opt  in.  He agreed that there  would be some places                                                               
in the  unorganized borough on the  road that would not  have the                                                               
possibility of a marijuana establishment.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:28:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX referred  to the  language  regarding how  terrible                                                               
marijuana is and asked where that language came from.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHILLING  surmised that Chair  LeDoux was referring  to [Sec.                                                               
1-2, Purpose and Findings sections of  Version T] and said he was                                                               
not  sure where  the language  originated as  the amendment  came                                                               
from  Senator  Lyman  Hoffman's  office, but  he  could  get  the                                                               
information to the committee.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:28:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SALTZMAN  stated  that  the amendment  was  added  when  the                                                               
amendment from Senator Hoffman was added to the bill.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SALTZMAN responded  to Chair  LeDoux that  the language  was                                                               
added in the Senate Finance Committee.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:30:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX surmised that the  big difference between the Senate                                                               
Judiciary  Standing  Committee  version  and the  bill  from  the                                                               
Senate are the felony aspects of the bill.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHILLING  responded in  the affirmative  and opined  that the                                                               
Senate  Judiciary Standing  Committee  version  does not  include                                                               
felony conduct  and noted that the  highest penalty is a  class A                                                               
misdemeanor  which carries  up to  one year  in jail  and $10,000                                                               
fine.  He  pointed out that the Senate  Finance Committee version                                                               
includes  three  felonies,  which  are:  possessing  25  or  more                                                               
plants, possessing a  pound or more of  marijuana, and furnishing                                                               
marijuana to a minor twice in  five years.  He explained that the                                                               
[last] felony is congruent to furnishing  alcohol to a minor.  He                                                               
related that the  only other felony conduct in  Title 4, contains                                                               
provisions related to delivering alcohol to a dry village.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:31:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX  asked  whether there  are  any  other  differences                                                               
between the  Senate Judiciary Standing Committee  version and the                                                               
final bill.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. SALTZMAN responded that there  were some differences in class                                                               
A  misdemeanors, class  B misdemeanors,  and what  was considered                                                               
violations.   She explained that  with regard to  possession, the                                                               
Senate Finance  Committee added that  if a person had  three, but                                                               
less  than  sixteen ounces  of  marijuana  outside the  home,  or                                                               
twelve to twenty-four  plants it would be a  class A misdemeanor.                                                               
Those were  changed from the Senate  Judiciary Standing Committee                                                               
version.   On the  same note,  she offered,  having two  but less                                                               
than  three  ounces of  marijuana  outside  a person's  home,  or                                                               
possessing seven  to eleven marijuana plants  would be misconduct                                                               
and a class B misdemeanor.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:32:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FOSTER referred  to the  question of  unorganized                                                               
boroughs and  surmised that within  the Senate  Finance Committee                                                               
version  a  community  such  as  Tok,  which  is  under  the  Tok                                                               
Community Umbrella  Corporation, is not  a village, and is  in an                                                               
unorganized borough,  that there  are no provisions  allowing Tok                                                               
to sell marijuana.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHILLING  advised that if Tok  is not a municipality,  not an                                                               
established  village, and  in the  unorganized borough,  it would                                                               
not have any recourse to opt in.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FOSTER  questioned   whether  within  the  Senate                                                               
Judiciary  Standing Committee  version there  is a  provision for                                                               
communities such as Tok.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SHILLING  responded  that   the  Senate  Judiciary  Standing                                                               
Committee version  contains the  traditional local option  law as                                                               
seen for alcohol, and by default  they would have to actively opt                                                               
out.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:33:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT  referred to  a bill  passed on  the House                                                               
floor by Representative Tilton,  and questioned whether that bill                                                               
covered  the provisions  currently  covered in  this  bill.   She                                                               
asked  whether the  House Judiciary  Standing Committee  is still                                                               
dealing with opt in/opt out,  unorganized borough, dry, damp, and                                                               
wet issues in this bill.   She related her understanding that the                                                               
bill sent to the Senate included  all of those provisions in that                                                               
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX offered that Representative  Millett was correct but                                                               
it is  difficult to determine within  14 days what bill  is going                                                               
to  make  it and  what  bill  is not  going  to  make it  so  the                                                               
committee is considering these issues right now.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHILLING offered  that he is not  an expert on HB  75, but it                                                               
is his understanding  that the language for  local option mirrors                                                               
the Senate Judiciary Standing Committee version.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:34:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT  asked if  this committee will  rehash [HB                                                               
75] again in [SB 30], or just focus on decriminalization.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX responded  that her intent is to  basically focus on                                                               
the decriminalization.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:35:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN  questioned if it is  appropriate to obtain                                                               
a sense from the committee regarding  how it wants to approach SB                                                               
30.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX relayed that without  actually voting on amendments,                                                               
the idea is  to determine a sense of the  committee as to whether                                                               
it  wishes to  go  the  route of  the  Senate Judiciary  Standing                                                               
Committee version,  which had  been discussed  at length  in this                                                               
committee,  or  go the  route  of  the Senate  Finance  Committee                                                               
version, or go a different route.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT  offered that  she would  like to  fix the                                                               
Senate's mess.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:36:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG asked for  a side-by-side comparison [of                                                               
the versions] to determine what the choices are.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX agreed,  but said  that the  way the  versions have                                                               
gone  are  far  apart  in  that  they  are  a  totally  different                                                               
technique,  philosophy, etc.    In that  regard,  she offered,  a                                                               
side-by-side comparison will not work.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:36:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN opined  there is a lot to be  gained by not                                                               
inventing too many wheels in one bill.   He stated that SB 30 has                                                               
more to  do with  criminal sanctions and  if the  committee works                                                               
under  the basic  understanding  that HB  75,  which passed  last                                                               
week,  deals with  the local  option issues  that this  committee                                                               
should focus on criminal penalties and not much more.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:38:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER  expressed that he  does not want  to write                                                               
off the  work of a  committee simply saying they  didn't consider                                                               
all of the bill.  He  opined that the committee has an obligation                                                               
to make a rational decision with both versions in mind.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX responded  that  is the  reason  both versions  are                                                               
before the  committee today,  in order  to make  a decision  as a                                                               
committee as to where it wants to  go.  She said she leans toward                                                               
the Senate Judiciary Standing Committee  version, but she did not                                                               
want  to  simply  strip  the   bill  and  substitute  the  Senate                                                               
Judiciary  Standing Committee  version  without  a discussion  in                                                               
this committee.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KELLER said  he did  not mean  to imply  anything                                                               
other than the  fact that there is  no reason to take  a sense of                                                               
the committee without [reviewing both versions].                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX  referred to the House  Judiciary Standing Committee                                                               
calendar and noted it will be spending plenty of time on SB 30.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:40:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  asked that someone from  Senate Finance                                                               
Committee testify  in order for  the committee to  understand its                                                               
thinking.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX responded  that Mr.  Shilling is  staff to  Senator                                                               
John Coghill,  and questioned whether  Senator Coghill is  on the                                                               
Senate Finance Committee.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SHILLING noted  that Senator  Coghill is  not on  the Senate                                                               
Finance  Committee, although  Mr. Shilling  assisted in  carrying                                                               
the bill through that committee.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG stated  he prefers  to be  certain both                                                               
sides of the argument are given an opportunity.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX   expressed  that   someone  from   Senate  Finance                                                               
Committee is welcome to offer its version.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:41:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX open public testimony.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:41:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LEDOUX  stated  that  she  had  previously  asked  Cynthia                                                               
Franklin, during  a House Labor  and Commerce  Standing Committee                                                               
meeting,  that  from  the  perspective  of  the  regulator  which                                                               
version  made more  sense.   She said  she believes  Ms. Franklin                                                               
responded that it  made more sense from  a regulatory perspective                                                               
to leave marijuana out of controlled substances.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:42:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CYNTHIA  FRANKLIN,  Director,  Alcoholic Beverage  Control  Board                                                               
(ABC  Board), Department  of  Commerce,  Community, and  Economic                                                               
Development,  agreed   with  Chair  LeDoux's  depiction   of  her                                                               
statement and  said that the preliminary  considerations document                                                               
the ABC Board  released during a February  board meeting contains                                                               
a  section addressing  this issue.   She  advised that  the board                                                               
joined  with her  and the  enforcement staff  in recommending  an                                                               
approach removing  the substance  from the  Controlled Substances                                                               
Act and creating crimes around  this substance in one place along                                                               
with the  regulations.  She offered  that Title 4, is  modeled in                                                               
this manner  that when  looking for  the rules  around commercial                                                               
and  non-commercial  alcohol, other  than  the  vehicle crime  in                                                               
Title  28,  all of  the  alcohol  crimes are  in  Title  4.   She                                                               
described the  carve out approach  that has crimes  involving the                                                               
substance  in  the Controlled  Substances  Act,  in that  alcohol                                                               
itself is  not illegal but  there is conduct around  alcohol that                                                               
is  illegal.   Title  4, explains  what can  and  cannot be  done                                                               
around alcohol.   The voters said  they do not want  marijuana to                                                               
be illegal in  Alaska, but do want some  conduct around marijuana                                                               
to be  illegal which  is reflected  in AS  17.38.   She indicated                                                               
that speaking from  a regulatory standpoint, it  would be simpler                                                               
to explain to everyone what  the rules around marijuana are, what                                                               
can  and can't  be done  with  that dangerous  substance, in  one                                                               
place.  She advised this is  the reason the board recommended the                                                               
substance be removed  and that crimes be created in  one place to                                                               
mirror the scheme  around alcohol.  She further  advised that she                                                               
spoke with Colorado regulators regarding  the "carve out system,"                                                               
and they  stated it substantially  injured their ability  to shut                                                               
down the  black market  and prevent  diversion because  the rules                                                               
can be confusing  for the public and law enforcement.   She noted                                                               
that a police  officer has to determine whether  the marijuana is                                                               
illegal as a controlled substance  Title 11 marijuana, or whether                                                               
it is legal  but regulated in Title 17 marijuana.   She said that                                                               
putting the  police officer  in that  position while  standing on                                                               
the  side  of the  road,  from  the  board's perspective,  is  an                                                               
undesirable way  of regulating this substance  with public safety                                                               
in mind and  preventing the diversion while staying  on the right                                                               
side of the federal rules (indisc.).                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:45:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DOLLYNDA  PHELPS,   said  with  regard  to   the  Senate  Finance                                                               
Committee version [Purpose} on page  1, she saw propaganda of the                                                               
1960s-1980s,  and  urged  that current  information  and  medical                                                               
research  be involved.   She  said she  found issue  with the  16                                                               
ounce  limit and  everything produced  from six  plants as  there                                                               
should not be  any limit within the house, but  there should be a                                                               
limit  outside of  the home  for  safety precautions.   In  truly                                                               
following the  initiative there should  not be any  limits within                                                               
the home,  she offered.  She  stated that cannabis should  not be                                                               
considered a controlled substance and  should stay off of the VIA                                                               
schedule list.   She related  that her research found  that under                                                               
Schedule VI  there is "no  currently accepted medical use  in the                                                               
United States  for the substance."   She referred to  U.S. Patent                                                               
No. 6630507, "Cannabinoids  as antioxidants and Neuroprotectants"                                                               
is assigned  to the  United States of  America as  represented by                                                               
the  U.S. Department  of  Health and  Human  Services.   Clearly,                                                               
there is  an accepted medical  use for  cannabis and it  does not                                                               
belong  on Schedule  VIA which  is in  conflict with  the current                                                               
form of SB 30 that does put cannabis in a Schedule VI category.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:48:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LEDOUX pointed  to Ms. Franklin's opinion  wherein it might                                                               
make  it  better for  regulators  to  control and  regulate  both                                                               
liquor and  marijuana if they  are not in  controlled substances,                                                               
and that  both are treated the  same.  She asked  what difference                                                               
it makes as  long as a person is not  arrested whether [cannabis]                                                               
is considered a controlled substance or not.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. PHELPS responded that by  definition cannabis does not belong                                                               
[in  controlled substances]  as there  are many  accepted medical                                                               
uses  in the  United States.   She  noted that  in going  further                                                               
"there  is a  larger  animal  at hand,  even  federally."     She                                                               
related that the initiative clearly  states that concentrates are                                                               
a product of cannabis, and  that marijuana and marijuana products                                                               
would become  legal, and that  several petitions were  signed and                                                               
sent  to   the  Senate  supporting   this.    She   offered  that                                                               
concentrates are  commonly used which require  enough strength to                                                               
benefit  patients  suffering  from cancer,  Parkinson's  disease,                                                               
fibromyalgia, and  epilepsy, among others.   A person's  right to                                                               
survival should  not be  diminished by the  United States  or the                                                               
State  of  Alaska,  she  opined.     She  stated  that  (indisc.)                                                               
concentrated form otherwise there  are not enough health benefits                                                               
to relieve  cancer or fibromyalgia  [symptoms] and  that research                                                               
would offer more guidance                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:51:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JASON HOWARD,  referred to [Sec.  2], page 2, lines  24-25, which                                                               
read:                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          (2) several hundred adults and children are                                                                           
     admitted  into  treatment  each   year  in  Alaska  for                                                                    
     marijuana abuse, with nearly  46 percent being children                                                                    
     under 20 years of age;                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOWARD  advised he  has researched this  issue and  found the                                                               
provision misleading in that it  is possibly taken out of context                                                               
wherein a  child has a choice  to go to juvenile  detention or go                                                               
to  rehab  for marijuana,  as  with  adults.    He said  he  also                                                               
contacted  researchers  regarding  issues of  suicide  and  other                                                               
problems that  children have,  and they  found that  studies have                                                               
shown  that IQ  deficiency has  led  to self-harm,  and that  the                                                               
researchers offered  they never  looked into  how the  body makes                                                               
cannabinoids  in  children.    He  noted that  he  spoke  with  a                                                               
therapist on the Kenai Peninsula  who advised that almost half of                                                               
the  children he  treats  have  a problem  with  self-harm.   Mr.                                                               
Howard said  that when a  person cuts themselves, the  body heals                                                               
with  cannabinoids  and  noted  he  is confused  as  to  why  the                                                               
legislature  is not  looking at  these  things.   He referred  to                                                               
[Sec. 2], page 2, lines 26-28, which read:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          (3) there is evidence that some users become                                                                          
     dependent  on marijuana  under  the clinical  standards                                                                    
     applied  by the  Diagnostic and  Statistical Manual  of                                                                    
     Mental Disorders IV; ...                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOWARD  referenced the Diagnostic  and Statistical  Manual of                                                               
Mental Disorders (DSM)  and stated that it should not  be used as                                                               
scientific data in that it was  written from work groups and task                                                               
forces, and  is a  guide for insurance  companies.   He explained                                                               
that  the DSM  is  not based  on scientific  data  and that  this                                                               
information  is   actually  written   in  the  DSM   itself,  and                                                               
therefore, is  not a reliable source.   He referred to  [Sec. 2],                                                               
page 3, lines 4-6, which read:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          (5) a significant percentage of persons in                                                                            
     treatment  for alcohol  abuse  also  abuse a  secondary                                                                    
     drug,  which may  include marijuana;  nevertheless, the                                                                    
     relationship  between marijuana  and alcohol  and other                                                                    
     drugs is not fully understood;                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:54:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOWARD  stated his disagreement  with the above  provision in                                                               
that  there   is  plenty  of   research  on  how   marijuana  and                                                               
cannabinoids affect  the brain, and  the reward system.   He then                                                               
referred to [Sec. 2], page 3, lines 7-14, which read:                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          (6) marijuana consists of hundreds of different                                                                       
     chemicals  that  can  affect  almost  every  organ  and                                                                    
     system  in the  body, including  the lymph  system, the                                                                    
     heart, and  the lungs;  THC binds  to receptors  in the                                                                    
     brain   that  should   otherwise   bind  to   naturally                                                                    
     occurring   brain  chemicals;   marijuana  can   affect                                                                    
     memory,  attention,   judgment,  and   other  cognitive                                                                    
     functions  and  can  impair  motor  coordination,  time                                                                    
     perception, and balance;  marijuana smoke contains more                                                                    
     carcinogenic    hydrocarbons   than    tobacco   smoke;                                                                    
     marijuana  often contains  bacteria or  fungi that  are                                                                    
     dangerous  to humans,  and may  be  harvested and  sold                                                                    
     without removing pesticides and fungicides;                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOWARD disagreed with the  above provision in that a person's                                                               
body  has  a   lipid  signaling  system  that   is  performed  by                                                               
cannabinoids,  and it  regulates  everything in  the human  body.                                                               
Unfortunately,  the provision  implies it  is a  negative effect.                                                               
The  issue of  bacteria and  fungi being  dangerous to  humans is                                                               
something that  having [cannabis] controlled and  regulated would                                                               
be addressed.   He  referred to  [Sec. 2],  page 3,  lines 15-16,                                                               
which read:                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
         (7) about 40 percent of the adults arrested in                                                                         
     this state who commit violent offenses have marijuana                                                                      
     in their system at the time of the arrest;                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HOWARD offered  that this  provision is  also misleading  in                                                               
that  most  of  the  tests  today do  not  test  for  active  THC                                                               
metabolites and  test for inactive  metabolites.  A  person could                                                               
smoke one  day and be tested  30 days later and  still have those                                                               
metabolites in their  system.  He said he disagrees  with the six                                                               
plant limit per household as he  is a medical marijuana user, and                                                               
a disabled veteran  who was blown up by  two improvised explosive                                                               
devices (IEDs.)    He  related that he is  on a large  amounts of                                                               
opioids, lorazepan,  and heavy narcotics for  anxiety, sleep, and                                                               
migraines.    He  pointed  out  that  all  of  those  issues  are                                                               
eliminated with  large amounts of  cannabis an  expressed concern                                                               
regarding limiting cannabis  to six plants for  those who require                                                               
large amounts of cannabis.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:57:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RACHELLE  YEUNG, Marijuana  Policy Project,  offered support  for                                                               
the Senate Judiciary Standing Committee's  version of SB 30 given                                                               
that  their suggestions  were addressed.   She  then referred  to                                                               
Secs.  1-2, of  the bill  and  stated they  should be  completely                                                               
deleted in  that Sec. 1,  concerns opting out of  the unorganized                                                               
boroughs.   She pointed out  that this committee deemed  that the                                                               
unorganized  borough   should  not  be  opted   out  and  instead                                                               
established villages  within the  borough should have  the option                                                               
to opt  themselves out.   She  pointed to Sec.  2, and  stated it                                                               
should  be   stricken  for   its  irrelevancy   and  unscientific                                                               
findings, that it  does not appear these  findings were discussed                                                               
during any  of the hearings, and  that she found it  curious that                                                               
by  its language  should make  empty statutes.   She  offered the                                                               
recommendation that the bill not  ban delivery as it could affect                                                               
medical patients  with mobility issues  who are home bound.   She                                                               
suggested reviewing the  proposed fines or penalties  for some of                                                               
the crimes as they may not meet  up with the standards set by the                                                               
initiative.  She pointed out  that possibly a drafting error made                                                               
it illegal for adults to display,  use, or possess under an ounce                                                               
of marijuana,  which is  contrary to  the fundamental  purpose of                                                               
the initiative.   She suggested  amending the definition  of open                                                               
marijuana   containers   to   the   Senate   Judiciary   Standing                                                               
Committee's definition.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
[SB 30 was held over.]                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:02:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Judiciary Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 3:02 p.m.                                                                 

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AK-Initiative-Text.pdf HJUD 4/6/2015 1:00:00 PM
HB 123
Hb 123 amend H.1.pdf HJUD 4/6/2015 1:00:00 PM
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Hb 123 H.2.pdf HJUD 4/6/2015 1:00:00 PM
HB 123
HB 123 Sectional Analysis.pdf HJUD 4/6/2015 1:00:00 PM
HB 123
HB 123 Transmittal Letter.pdf HJUD 4/6/2015 1:00:00 PM
HB 123
HB123 CS ver E.pdf HJUD 4/6/2015 1:00:00 PM
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HB123 CS ver H.PDF HJUD 4/6/2015 1:00:00 PM
HB 123
HB123 CS ver N.pdf HJUD 4/6/2015 1:00:00 PM
HB 123
HB123 Fiscal Note - DOA.pdf HJUD 4/6/2015 1:00:00 PM
HB 123
HB123 Letter of Opposition.pdf HJUD 4/6/2015 1:00:00 PM
HB 123
HB123 Memo regarding fiscal note revision-DOA.pdf HJUD 4/6/2015 1:00:00 PM
HB 123
HB123 Supporting Documents - ABC.pdf HJUD 4/6/2015 1:00:00 PM
HB 123
HB123-DCCED-ABC-03-09-15.pdf HJUD 4/6/2015 1:00:00 PM
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HB123 Ver A.pdf HJUD 4/6/2015 1:00:00 PM
HB 123
Hotrum v State.pdf HJUD 4/6/2015 1:00:00 PM
SB30 v T.pdf HJUD 4/6/2015 1:00:00 PM
SB 30
CSSSB30 Draft Proposed v Q.pdf HJUD 4/6/2015 1:00:00 PM
SB 30
CSSB30(SFIN) Explanation of Changes.pdf HJUD 4/6/2015 1:00:00 PM
SB 30
CSSB30(FIN) Sectional Analysis Version T.pdf HJUD 4/6/2015 1:00:00 PM
SB 30