Legislature(1993 - 1994)

02/02/1994 03:00 PM HES

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           HOUSE HEALTH, EDUCATION AND SOCIAL SERVICES                         
                       STANDING COMMITTEE                                      
                        February 2, 1994                                       
                            3:00 p.m.                                          
  MEMBERS PRESENT                                                              
  Rep. Cynthia Toohey, Co-Chair                                                
  Rep. Con Bunde, Co-Chair                                                     
  Rep. Gary Davis, Vice Chair                                                  
  Rep. Al Vezey                                                                
  Rep. Harley Olberg                                                           
  Rep. Bettye Davis                                                            
  MEMBERS ABSENT                                                               
  Rep. Pete Kott                                                               
  Rep. Irene Nicholia (excused)                                                
  Rep. Tom Brice                                                               
  COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                           
  *HB 327:  "An Act extending the termination date of the                      
            Board of Veterinary Examiners; and providing for                   
            an effective date."                                                
            PASSED WITH INDIVIDUAL RECOMMENDATIONS                             
  *HB 361:  "An Act making an appropriation to the Department                  
            of Education for support of kindergarten, primary,                 
            and secondary education and community schools                      
            programs; and providing for an effective date."                    
            NOT HEARD - POSTPONED                                              
  (* First public hearing)                                                     
  WITNESS REGISTER                                                             
  KARL LUCK, Director                                                          
  Division of Occupational Licensing                                           
  Department of Commerce and Economic Development                              
  P.O. Box 110806                                                              
  Juneau, Alaska 99811-0806                                                    
  Phone:  (907) 456-2538                                                       
  Position Statement:  Testified in support of HB 327                          
  BARBARA J. MARCISAK, Member                                                  
  State Board of Veterinary Examiners                                          
  HC04 Box 9563                                                                
  Palmer, Alaska 99645                                                         
  Phone:  (907) 745-5742                                                       
  Position Statement:  Asked questions regarding HB 327                        
  PREVIOUS ACTION                                                              
  BILL:  HB 327                                                                
  SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) TOOHEY,BUNDE,Green                             
  JRN-DATE    JRN-PG                     ACTION                                
  01/03/94      2012    (H)   PREFILE RELEASED                                 
  01/10/94      2012    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  01/10/94      2013    (H)   HES, FINANCE                                     
  01/12/94      2042    (H)   JOINT SPONSORSHIP:TOOHEY,BUNDE                   
  01/14/94      2083    (H)   COSPONSOR(S):  GREEN                             
  02/02/94              (H)   HES AT 03:00 PM CAPITOL 106                      
  BILL:  HB 361                                                                
  SHORT TITLE: APPROP: EDUCATION FUNDING FOR FY 95                             
  SPONSOR(S): FINANCE                                                          
  JRN-DATE    JRN-PG                     ACTION                                
  01/11/94      2032    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  01/11/94      2033    (H)   HES, FINANCE                                     
  02/02/94              (H)   HES AT 03:00 PM CAPITOL 106                      
  ACTION NARRATIVE                                                             
  TAPE 94-08, SIDE A                                                           
  Number 000                                                                   
  VICE-CHAIR GARY DAVIS called the meeting to order at 3:08                    
  p.m. and asked for roll to be called.  Rep. Kott and Rep.                    
  Brice were not in attendance.  Rep. Nicholia was excused.                    
  Vice-Chair G. Davis introduced HB 327 to the table.                          
  HB 327 - EXTEND BOARD OF VETERINARY EXAMINERS                                
  Number 046                                                                   
  REP. CYNTHIA TOOHEY, Prime Sponsor of HB 327, stated that                    
  the State Board of Veterinary Examiners passed the current                   
  sunset date on June 30, 1993.  She was asked by DR. JIM                      
  LEACH to extend the sunset date through 1997.  Rep. Toohey                   
  felt it was a reasonable amount of time, although most                       
  boards are at ten years.  Given the current fiscal climate,                  
  she felt it was important for the board to pay its own way.                  
  Rep. Toohey referred to the fiscal note and stated that the                  
  annual revenue exceeded the annual cost.                                     
  REP. TOOHEY introduced KARL LUCK, Director of Occupational                   
  Licensing and BARBARA MARCISAK, Member, State Board of                       
  Veterinary Examiners.                                                        
  Number 119                                                                   
  REP. VEZEY asked Rep. Toohey if the director of the State                    
  Board of Veterinary Examiners was a paid position.                           
  Number 130                                                                   
  REP. TOOHEY said that she thought it was a non-paying                        
  position and referred to Mr. Luck.                                           
  Number 132                                                                   
  MR. LUCK replied that there are no salaries for board                        
  members, but there is per diem.                                              
  Number 138                                                                   
  REP. VEZEY asked if there were salaries for staff.                           
  Number 139                                                                   
  MR. LUCK said that occupational licensing is paid for                        
  through fees.                                                                
  Number 144                                                                   
  REP. VEZEY asked why there was no fiscal note for that.                      
  Number 145                                                                   
  MR. LUCK responded that there was no increase to the fiscal                  
  note from what was normally charged.                                         
  Number 151                                                                   
  REP. VEZEY restated the annual cost as being $28,100 and the                 
  annual revenue as being $33,900.                                             
  Number 172                                                                   
  MR. LUCK further stated that the reason for the zero fiscal                  
  note was because there was no increase or decrease to the                    
  Number 187                                                                   
  REP. VEZEY asked if that was proper criteria for a zero                      
  fiscal note.                                                                 
  Number 186                                                                   
  MR. LUCK replied that it was the criteria that has been used                 
  for all the board's previous bills.                                          
  Number 203                                                                   
  REP. TOOHEY, to clarify, asked if the annual cost of $28,100                 
  went to pay for Mr. Luck's staff and part of his salary.                     
  Number 212                                                                   
  MR. LUCK answered yes.  He stated that the entire division's                 
  budget was funded by all receipts from licensing.  He                        
  further stated that the tracking system used to determine                    
  when license fees are due had been changed by                                
  recommendations from a previous audit.  A "positive time-                    
  keeping" system was suggested, meaning that a licensing                      
  examiner would keep track of his/her time on a daily basis                   
  so that all their salary and benefits and all other expenses                 
  would be directly charged to the board that was being                        
  examined.  As a result of the system change, Mr. Luck said                   
  that staffing problems had arisen due to changing from a                     
  system where there was one budget dealing with the aggregate                 
  to 32 individual budgets.  He said that issue would be                       
  addressed in the 1995 budget.                                                
  Number 290                                                                   
  VICE-CHAIR G. DAVIS stated for the record that Rep. Bunde                    
  arrived at 3:12 p.m.                                                         
  Number 295                                                                   
  REP. VEZEY asked what the impact on the budget would be if                   
  the licensing period went from two years to three or five                    
  Number 310                                                                   
  MR. LUCK said that there would be no impact on the budget.                   
  He stated that there were approximately 309 veterinarians                    
  that have a two-year licensing fee of $200 (for two years).                  
  Number 326                                                                   
  REP. VEZEY asked if licensing every third year would be                      
  cheaper time-wise than every two years.                                      
  Number 337                                                                   
  MR. LUCK replied that the cost would reduce, and also                        
  perhaps the time it would take to do renewals.                               
  Number 356                                                                   
  REP. VEZEY questioned if the proposal would be the                           
  appropriate vehicle to address the licensing period in.  He                  
  wondered if that would be violating the "single-subject                      
  Number 368                                                                   
  MR. LUCK stated that he was not an expert on such matters,                   
  and said he did not see it as a problem.                                     
  Number 371                                                                   
  REP. VEZEY stated the two issues as being the sunset date                    
  for extending the board and the period that a license is                     
  Number 389                                                                   
  MR. LUCK said that to change the licensing period of one                     
  board would "get the money out of sync," as one board is                     
  collected from one year and another from the alternate year.                 
  Number 413                                                                   
  REP. BUNDE said that the bill did not include the duties of                  
  the board of examiners.  He felt it would be a separate                      
  Number 426                                                                   
  REP. VEZEY stated that it would require a change in the                      
  title, but it would not violate the single-subject rule.  It                 
  would be a valid bill.                                                       
  Number 434                                                                   
  REP. TOOHEY asked for comments or questions from BARBARA                     
  Number 437                                                                   
  BARBARA MARCISAK, Member, State Board of Veterinary                          
  Examiners, asked if money would be saved by extending the                    
  licensing period.                                                            
  Number 460                                                                   
  REP. VEZEY said that if paperwork were processed on an                       
  annual basis, one would have "X" amount of paperwork.  If                    
  the paperwork was done biannually, one would have "X" amount                 
  of paperwork divided by two.                                                 
  Number 467                                                                   
  REP. OLBERG felt that the $100 fee annually was very                         
  Number 479                                                                   
  MR. LUCK asserted that the fees were set based on the                        
  expenses the board incurs.                                                   
  Number 500                                                                   
  VICE-CHAIR G. DAVIS asked if there were any recommendations                  
  from the committee on HB 327.                                                
  Number 503                                                                   
  REP. BUNDE recommended that the committee move HB 327 out of                 
  committee with individual recommendations.                                   
  Number 507                                                                   
  VICE-CHAIR G. DAVIS asked if there were any objections.                      
  Hearing no objections, the bill was so moved.  He stated                     
  that discussion for HB 361 had been postponed.                               
  Seeing no further business before the committee, VICE-CHAIR                  
  G. DAVIS adjourned the meeting at 3:22 p.m.                                  

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