Legislature(2015 - 2016)HOUSE FINANCE 519

03/31/2015 01:30 PM FINANCE

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Delayed to 2:35 p.m. Today --
+ HB 81 EXEMPTION: LICENSING OF CONTRACTORS TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Canceled>
*+ HB 143 AIDEA BONDS, LOANS, FUND; AEA LOAN TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 135 PUBLIC EMPLOYEE ROTH CONTRIBUTIONS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 68 ELECTRONIC DISTRIB. OF REPORTS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 68(FIN) Out of Committee
<Bill Hearing Rescheduled from 3/30/15>
HOUSE BILL NO. 68                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to the preparation, electronic                                                                            
     distribution, and posting of reports by state                                                                              
     agencies."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:29:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman MOVED to ADOPT the proposed committee                                                                           
substitute for HB 68, Work Draft 29-LS0352\I (Nauman,                                                                           
03/24/15).                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
JANE   PIERSON,   STAFF,  REPRESENTATIVE   STEVE   THOMPSON,                                                                    
reviewed the changes in the  Committee Substitute (CS) bill.                                                                    
She reported  that two changes  were made to the  bill found                                                                    
on page 3.  The first change on lines 16  through 18 read as                                                                    
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     (b)  A  report  produced  and distributed  by  a  state                                                                    
     agency  shall prominently  state  the Internet  website                                                                    
     where a digital  copy and the physical  address where a                                                                    
     print copy of the report may be found.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pierson identified the second change found on line 24:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.  44.99.260.  Print  copy requests.  A  person  may                                                                    
     obtain,  at  no  charge,  up to  two  print  copies  of                                                                    
     reports from  the state  library distribution  and data                                                                    
     access center under AS 14.56.170 each day…                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pierson communicated that "two"  was changed from "four"                                                                    
due to the large size of some of the reports.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JONATHAN  KREISS-TOMKINS, SPONSOR,  recapped                                                                    
HB  68. He  explained that  the legislation  digitized state                                                                    
reports  that   were  printed  in  large   quantities  at  a                                                                    
"significant" cost to  the state. He believed  that the bill                                                                    
modernized   how   the   state  disseminated   reports   and                                                                    
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  asked for a description  of the legislation                                                                    
and  reasons  why  the bill  was  important.  Representative                                                                    
Kreiss-Tompkins noted that  HB 68 was projected  to save the                                                                    
state a  half million  dollars each  year. He  believed that                                                                    
the   bill  increased   the   public's   access  to   public                                                                    
information  and  standardized  the way  reports  were  made                                                                    
available  to the  public electronically.  Additionally, the                                                                    
legislation   created  a   standard  for   digitization  and                                                                    
archival  of  state  reports.  A  consequence  of  the  bill                                                                    
increased  the amount  of reports  for archiving  needs from                                                                    
four  to  five.  The  need was  discovered  when  performing                                                                    
research  for   the  bill.  He  summarized   that  the  bill                                                                    
digitized  state   reports,  saved  the  state   money,  and                                                                    
standardized   the   means   of  digital   access   to   the                                                                    
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:35:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman asked  about people that do  not have access                                                                    
to the  internet. He wondered  how they will have  access to                                                                    
state  reports.   Representative  Kreiss-Tompkins  responded                                                                    
that, relatively nothing is really  changing for people that                                                                    
live in  rural areas  or lacked  internet access.  The state                                                                    
was not  automatically mailing copies  of reports  to people                                                                    
in rural areas without internet,  access to public radio, or                                                                    
newspapers.  He elaborated  that HB  68 entitled  anyone who                                                                    
wanted  a copy  of a  report  to contact  the state  library                                                                    
system and request copies. He  offered that the bill created                                                                    
parallel paths for any individual  who wanted state reports;                                                                    
one  was  electronic  and the  other  supplied  hard  copies                                                                    
through the mail.  He thought that the language  in the bill                                                                    
that allowed for the supply  of hard copies was enhanced and                                                                    
"iron-clad" going beyond existing law.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  wondered  how  people would  know  if  the                                                                    
information  is available  to  them. Representative  Kreiss-                                                                    
Tompkins  responded that  currently the  isolated individual                                                                    
was in  the same situation  without HB 68. The  person could                                                                    
call or  write the  state library and  request a  report. He                                                                    
claimed  that  current  statute did  not  specify  that  the                                                                    
person could  request copies from the  state library system.                                                                    
He did  not know  how any  bill could  solve the  problem of                                                                    
making the public  aware of the existence  of state reports.                                                                    
He believed that the legislation  protected and enhanced the                                                                    
access to  public information  if people  wanted it  and did                                                                    
not  inhibit  access  to  state   reports  in  any  way.  He                                                                    
suggested  that the  information regarding  citizens' access                                                                    
to  public information  could  be  incorporated into  school                                                                    
civics  curriculum.  He would  like  to  make more  Alaskans                                                                    
aware of  their right to  public information, but HB  68 did                                                                    
not address the issue.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Thompson thought  that the  bill would  make state                                                                    
reports more  accessible to people living  more remotely and                                                                    
desired  the   information.  Representative  Kreiss-Tompkins                                                                    
agreed.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:40:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Saddler   appreciated  Representative   Kreiss-                                                                    
Tompkins  accepting his  amendment. He  asked what  he based                                                                    
the $500  thousand in  savings on since  the amount  was not                                                                    
reflected   in   the   fiscal   note   (FN   1   (Various)).                                                                    
Representative  Kreiss-Tompkins  responded that  the  actual                                                                    
savings  were   indeterminate  but  would  be   a  "negative                                                                    
number." He shared that the  Office of Management and Budget                                                                    
(OMB) provided the  $570 thousand as a total  amount for the                                                                    
state's aggregate printing costs.  The legislation allowed a                                                                    
commissioner  or division  director to  determine whether  a                                                                    
report was so  important that it should be  both printed and                                                                    
digitized.  Therefore,   some  printing  costs   were  still                                                                    
applicable.  In  addition,   he  exemplified  pamphlets  and                                                                    
brochures from  the Department  of Fish  and Game  (DFG) and                                                                    
Division  of  Motor  Vehicles   (DMV)  as  information  that                                                                    
warranted hard copies.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Munoz   related  that  often  the   cost  of                                                                    
printing several  copies of publications  were close  to the                                                                    
cost  of printing  "hundreds of  copies." She  asked whether                                                                    
the reports would  be copied as published  reports or merely                                                                    
Xeroxed  copies.  Representative  Kreiss-Tompkins  responded                                                                    
that  the  bill  contained  a provision  that  required  the                                                                    
reports to be produced in-house  and not published as glossy                                                                    
publications  designed by  commercial graphic  designers. He                                                                    
remarked   that  the   savings  created   by  the   in-house                                                                    
requirement was not calculated in  the fiscal note and would                                                                    
further enhance the savings. The  reports would no longer be                                                                    
published in  an elaborate  format and would  be able  to be                                                                    
printed as  a PDF. He  deferred to the state  library system                                                                    
for a more definitive answer.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Munoz  wanted to put  on the record  that the                                                                    
intent of the bill was to  save costs and ease simplicity of                                                                    
printing  in order  to produce  the savings.  Representative                                                                    
Kreiss-Tompkins agreed with her statement.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:45:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kawasaki appreciated  the bill.  He referred                                                                    
to a  Legislative Research report  listing the  state agency                                                                    
reports  required  by statute.  He  asked  whether the  bill                                                                    
would   supersede   the   current  statute   that   required                                                                    
legislators to  receive printed copies of  mandated reports.                                                                    
Representative    Kreiss-Tompkins     responded    in    the                                                                    
affirmative.  He explained  that some  agencies had  already                                                                    
decided to send  its mandated reports to  legislators via an                                                                    
electronic  link by  email. He  understood that  statutorily                                                                    
mandated  reports would  all be  disseminated electronically                                                                    
to legislators with  passage of the bill.  He qualified that                                                                    
the   reports  would   be  sent   electronically  unless   a                                                                    
commissioner or  division director  determined that  a "high                                                                    
and public" need  existed for hard copies of  the report. He                                                                    
noted  that  a  division   director  included  a  lieutenant                                                                    
governor, governor, and the legislative  branch. In the case                                                                    
the legislature  or governor's office produced  an important                                                                    
publication  deemed  worthy   of  printing  the  appropriate                                                                    
entity could produce a hard copy of its report.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kawasaki  lifted a basket of  reports that he                                                                    
had received within the past  couple of days. He voiced that                                                                    
he also  received a  large quantity of  emails each  day. He                                                                    
expressed  concern  that  he  would  "lose"  report  notices                                                                    
hiding in his  email. He did not want to  receive all of the                                                                    
mandated reports;  only certain  reports as hard  copies. He                                                                    
wondered if  there was  a way legislators  could opt  out of                                                                    
receiving  paper   reports.  Representative  Kreiss-Tompkins                                                                    
responded in  the negative. He  explained that  agencies did                                                                    
not have a mechanism to send  out reports in that manner. He                                                                    
understood Representative Kawasaki's email issue.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:51:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson referred to page  3, line 20. He read from                                                                    
the page:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     …electronic posting on the  Alaska Online Public Notice                                                                    
     System (AS 44.62.175) fulfills  any obligation in state                                                                    
     law  to  publish, prepare,  or  present  a report,  and                                                                    
     electronic  distribution  fulfills  any  obligation  in                                                                    
     state law to submit a report.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson OPENED public testimony.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Thompson CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  MOVED  to  REPORT   CSHB  68(FIN)  out  of                                                                    
committee   with   individual    recommendations   and   the                                                                    
accompanying fiscal note.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
There being NO  OBJECTION, CSHB 68(FIN) was  REPORTED out of                                                                    
committee  with  a "do  pass"  recommendation  and with  one                                                                    
previously published zero fiscal note: FN1 (GOV).                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:53:38 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:56:35 PM                                                                                                                    
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Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB81 Sectional Analysis.pdf HFIN 3/31/2015 1:30:00 PM
HB 81
HB81 Sponsor Statement.pdf HFIN 3/31/2015 1:30:00 PM
HB 81
HB81 Supporting Documents-Email Richard Carr 2-18-2015.pdf HFIN 3/31/2015 1:30:00 PM
HB 81
HB81 Supporting Documents-Email Richard Green 2-18-2015.pdf HFIN 3/31/2015 1:30:00 PM
HB 81
HB81 Supporting Documents-Email Scott Allen 2-17-2015.pdf HFIN 3/31/2015 1:30:00 PM
HB 81
HB81 Supporting Documents-Letter Chuck Homan 2-11-2015.pdf HFIN 3/31/2015 1:30:00 PM
HB 81
HB81 Supporting Documents-Letter Jess Hall 2-10-2015.pdf HFIN 3/31/2015 1:30:00 PM
HB 81
HB 143 CS WorkDraft E version.pdf HFIN 3/31/2015 1:30:00 PM
HB 143
HB 143 Letter of Support - AEA.pdf HFIN 3/31/2015 1:30:00 PM
HB 143
HB 143 Letter of Support - AIDEA.pdf HFIN 3/31/2015 1:30:00 PM
HB 143
HB 143 Letters of Support.pdf HFIN 3/31/2015 1:30:00 PM
HB 143
HB 143 Resolutions of Support.pdf HFIN 3/31/2015 1:30:00 PM
HB 143
HB 143 Sponsor Statement.pdf HFIN 3/31/2015 1:30:00 PM
HB 143
HB135 - Sectional Analysis.pdf HFIN 3/31/2015 1:30:00 PM
HB 135
HB135 - Supporting Document - Roth 457 FAQs.pdf HFIN 3/31/2015 1:30:00 PM
HB 135
HB135 Public Employee Roth Contributions Transmittal Letter.pdf HFIN 3/31/2015 1:30:00 PM
HB 135
HB 143 NEW FN DCCED AIDEA.pdf HFIN 3/31/2015 1:30:00 PM
HB 143
HB 143 NEW FN DCCED AEA.pdf HFIN 3/31/2015 1:30:00 PM
HB 143
Waterfall Creek-King Cove HB 143.pdf HFIN 3/31/2015 1:30:00 PM
HB 143
HB 143 support.pdf HFIN 3/31/2015 1:30:00 PM
HB 143
JHI Rep. Saddler Letter 4-2-15.pdf HFIN 3/31/2015 1:30:00 PM
HB 143
HB 143 Sponsor Statement.pdf HFIN 3/31/2015 1:30:00 PM
HB 143