Legislature(2011 - 2012)BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)
02/28/2012 01:30 PM Senate LABOR & COMMERCE
| Audio | Topic |
|---|---|
| Start | |
| SB138 | |
| SB174 | |
| SB190 | |
| SB157 | |
| Adjourn |
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
| += | SB 190 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | SB 138 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | SB 157 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | SB 116 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | SB 174 | TELECONFERENCED | |
SB 157-CANCEL INSUR. ON CERTAIN VACANT PROPERTY
2:36:39 PM
CHAIR EGAN announced the consideration of SB 157.
SENATOR PASKVAN moved to bring CSSB 157( ), 27-LS0928\E, before
the committee.
CHAIR EGAN objected for discussion purposes.
2:37:12 PM
DANA OWEN, staff to Senator Egan and aide to the Senate Labor
and Commerce Standing Committee, said the last time they talked
about this bill the committee found a problem because of the
concept that insurance companies could cancel policies on
property that appeared to be unoccupied. Committee members
expressed a great deal of reluctance to grant insurance
companies the ability to do that, because Alaskans typically
have homes which they leave for long periods of time, even
though they certainly intend to come back and reoccupy them. So,
language common to case law was suggested by industry on page 2,
lines 6-7 removing "Un-occupancy or vacancy of the insured
property that increases a hazard." and replacing it with:
vacancy of the insured property that increases a
hazard insured against in this paragraph. In this
paragraph vacancy means entire abandonment of the
property by the insured and the property does not
contain contents with substantial utility.
MR. OWEN said this goes back to the idea of vacancy, which from
testimony seemed was something people understood and could be
defined in the statute. The idea of unoccupied homes being
available for insurance cancelation was removed.
2:41:38 PM
SENATOR MENARD asked him to flesh out what was meant by
"vacancy."
MR. OWEN said Sheldon Winters could explain it from the
insurance company's point of view, but this terminology is
commonly used in the industry, so people recognize vacant
property as being property that doesn't have any substantially
valuable material left behind.
CHAIR EGAN said there were concerns that the definition of
"vacancy" wasn't in statute. Now it is.
SENATOR GIESSEL asked where it says "primary residence."
MR. OWEN said he understood that it didn't apply to a primary
residence.
SENATOR MENARD said she wrote it in her notes.
MR. OWEN said it's his understanding that it would apply to any
residence.
2:44:49 PM
SHELDON WINTERS, State Farm Insurance, Juneau, said the industry
took the committee's concerns to heart; thus the CS. They took
out the un-occupancy piece and looked for a definition of
"vacancy" which was problematic, because no other state defines
it. However they found case law that talked about it and tied it
into abandonment, which was one of Senator Paskvan's ideas. Now,
if enacted, the property must be entirely abandoned by the
insured, devoid of contents of substantial utility; and those
two things must increase the hazard that was insured against.
He reminded the committee that insurance companies want to
insure property, and in all cases they either issue a brand new
policy or renew a policy within 12 months. Remember, if the
property is determined to be "vacant" the owner must send a
cancelation notice to the insured, but if the insured is going
to get their mail and did not abandon the property and does
intend to insure it, he would bring the letter to his insurance
agent and work out the solution. Finally, he said, this is all
subject to the oversight of the Division of Insurance.
MR. SHELDON said the statute does not distinguish between
primary residences and it all goes back to the amount of risk
insured against. A cabin would have a different kind of
insurance, but it would still have to be abandoned and devoid of
property. His reading of case law is that "devoid of substantial
utility" is designed to address a situation in which someone
leaves something like a chair or a microwave. You don't want to
be really specific.
2:49:20 PM
SENATOR PASKVAN said these are significant improvements. His
concern was if a homeowner takes a job in Texas, for example,
and they put their home on the market and take all of their
furniture out, but they are still paying the mortgage and the
electric and fuel bills. Now he understands that the vacancy
endorsement for $30 would fix that.
MR. WINTERS agreed that the definition is so limited now that it
would be difficult to ever cancel a policy.
2:50:55 PM
LINDA HALL, Director, Division of Insurance, said she was fine
with the changes to SB 157. She contended that there was another
step; if you have a consumer who feels that his insurance has
been wrongly canceled, they are welcome to come to her division
and the Consumer Protection Division would investigate the
circumstances. Seeing how these statutes are applied in the real
world is part of their general oversight authority. The division
determines whether there is a violation.
2:52:36 PM
SENATOR PASKVAN moved to report CSSB 157( ), version E, from
committee with individual recommendations and attached fiscal
note. There being no objection, the motion carried.
2:52:55 PM
At ease from 2:52 to 2:54 p.m.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| SB 190 lttr supporting, APHA.pdf |
SL&C 2/28/2012 1:30:00 PM |
SB 190 |
| SB 190 Sponsor Statement.pdf |
SL&C 2/28/2012 1:30:00 PM |
SB 190 |
| SB 190 lttr supporting, Big Game Commercial Services Board.pdf |
SL&C 2/28/2012 1:30:00 PM |
SB 190 |
| SB 190 Sectional Analysis.pdf |
SL&C 2/28/2012 1:30:00 PM |
SB 190 |
| SB0190A.pdf |
SL&C 2/28/2012 1:30:00 PM |
SB 190 |
| CSSB 190 blank v M.PDF |
SL&C 2/28/2012 1:30:00 PM |
SB 190 |
| SB 190 BGCS Fact Sheet.pdf |
SL&C 2/28/2012 1:30:00 PM |
SB 190 |
| SB 190 BGCS Roster.pdf |
SL&C 2/28/2012 1:30:00 PM |
SB 190 |
| SB 190 Explanation of Changes.pdf |
SL&C 2/28/2012 1:30:00 PM |
SB 190 |
| SB 122 emails supporting L&C CS.PDF |
SL&C 2/28/2012 1:30:00 PM |
SB 122 |
| SB138-DCCED-RCA-2-24-12.PDF |
SL&C 2/28/2012 1:30:00 PM |
SB 138 |
| SB 138 Ver.R.PDF |
SL&C 2/28/2012 1:30:00 PM |
SB 138 |
| SB 157 DRAFT CS v D.PDF |
SL&C 2/28/2012 1:30:00 PM |
SB 157 |
| CSSB 174 BLANK v I 022412.PDF |
SL&C 2/28/2012 1:30:00 PM |
SB 174 |
| SB 174 Amendment M.1, Sen. Giessel.PDF |
SL&C 2/28/2012 1:30:00 PM |
SB 174 |