Legislature(2011 - 2012)BUTROVICH 205
03/12/2012 03:30 PM Senate RESOURCES
| Audio | Topic |
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| Start | |
| SB153 | |
| SB123 | |
| SB159 | |
| SB181 | |
| SB205 | |
| Adjourn |
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
| *+ | SB 123 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| *+ | SB 159 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| *+ | SB 181 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| *+ | SB 205 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| = | SB 153 | ||
SB 153-NATURAL GAS STORAGE TAX CREDIT/REGULATION
3:37:21 PM
CO-CHAIR PASKVAN announced the consideration of SB 153, [CSSB
153, version 27-LS1187\D, was before the committee].
SENATOR STEVENS joined the committee.
3:37:26 PM
SENATOR JOE THOMAS, Alaska State Legislature, sponsor of SB 153,
said the cost of fuel in Alaska is crippling much of the state's
economy, and the dramatic delivery of fuel oil to Nome this
winter helped focus attention on it. In the Interior today, he
said heating fuel costs are $4.68 a gallon; when he last
reported they were under $4, but it is natural for the price to
go up in winter.
He said that when he last reported, about $660 million was being
spent in the Interior on just energy. At the new rate, it would
be over $800 million for the same amount of fuel. It averages
out to about $8,100 per person as compared to $6,600 that it was
last time he testified. He said 39 percent of Golden Valley
Electric Association's (GVEA) electricity is produced from
diesel fuel, which accounts for about 60 percent of the
electrical generation budget. With the fuel dollar increase
since he left Fairbanks, they now pay over $40/mmbtu compared to
$8.67 in Southcentral. Fairbanks is currently paying $23.35 for
1 cf/gas and $.23 per kilowatt hour. He said individual heating
bills of $1,000 to $1,500 a month are not unusual for the
heating season which is September through April.
SENATOR THOMAS said SB 153 addresses this problem by
incentivizing the private sector to deliver additional trucked
gas to Fairbanks over the next three years. Fairbanks has
trucked gas now, but the amount is limited because Southcentral
suppliers are obligated to take care of their customers first.
So they cut back sometimes and Fairbanks Natural Gas (FNG), the
distributor, can't get what they need. This means that some
places have to shut down their natural gas generation and turn
their fuel oil generation back on. The fuel oil and gas prices
are not dramatically different now, because there is no
competition for it.
He said SB 153 would result in savings of $15 million or 50
percent of the construction cost, whichever is less. This credit
is currently available to Cook Inlet's gas storage project,
CINGSA. He wants Fairbanks to receive the same benefit although
the storage would be above ground since there are no depleted
wells to use as underground storage. He said anyone taking
advantage of these tax credits must be a regulated utility,
because then whatever savings is received will be passed through
to the consumer through RCA regulation. It will also ensure that
neither North Slope producers nor an LNG export facility that do
not provide for consumption of gas at savings to Alaskans that
and are not regulated utilities, will not have access to these
credits.
SENATOR THOMAS said storage will be needed in any event, even
with a gasline from the North Slope. He noted that SB 153 has
had no negative attention since it was introduced. He thanked
the additional sponsors.
3:41:22 PM
SENATOR MCGUIRE joined the committee.
3:43:44 PM
CHAIR FRENCH said he thought it was fair to do in Fairbanks what
has been done in Kenai at the Cook Inlet Natural Gas Storage,
Alaska facility (CINGSA). He asked how much the state spent for
the CINGSA facility and how much storage it bought.
3:44:11 PM
GRIER HOPKINS, staff to Senator Thomas, Alaska State
Legislature, Juneau, AK, answered that $15 million was given to
CINGSA in tax credits on a volumetric calculation of $1.50/mcf
of storage; 11 bcf/gas was stored in that reservoir along with 7
bcf of cushion gas for a total of 18 bcf.
CHAIR FRENCH asked what sort of volumes this bill envisions.
MR. HOPKINS replied about 360 mmcf/gas stored in two separate
tanks, two-thirds of that on the North Slope and one-third in
North Pole.
3:45:24 PM
SENATOR STEDMAN said this looks more like an appropriation bill
and asked him to review who could take advantage of it and why
this wouldn't be done through a regular capital appropriation
process for a regular utility.
SENATOR THOMAS explained that there has been interest in various
areas; propane storage has interest as well. Fish processing
plants, Valdez and Cordova all show interest, because they have
huge issues with their electrical generation and are looking for
relief. He initially wanted to make sure that if the credits
were given in one place that they would at least be allowable in
other places. So, it looks like an appropriation bill.
SENATOR STEDMAN asked if there are restrictions on it or could
every town in the state make a similar request.
SENATOR THOMAS replied that the only limiting factor is being a
regulated utility.
MR. HOPKINS added that language on page 3, line 31, lowers the
size of the tank to 25,000 gallons so that smaller utilities
(especially along the Railbelt) could apply for the tax credits.
3:49:29 PM
SENATOR STEDMAN observed that the term used is "credits," but
it's really more like an equity infusion.
MR. HOPKINS said HB 280 (the CINGSA tax credit) by
Representative Hawker was also perceived to be a tax credit, but
the project has moved forward, it has become a limited liability
corporation with a number of different entities working together
in partnership to build the storage facility. It is not paying
any taxes to the state, the same situation GVEA would be in with
this bill.
3:51:24 PM
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI moved to report CSSB 153( ), [version D,]
from committee with individual recommendations and attached
fiscal note(s). There were no objections, and CSSB 153(RES)
moved from the Senate Resources Standing Committee.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| SB0123 vs M.pdf |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 123 |
| SB 123 Research & backup.pdf |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 123 |
| DRAFT CS SB - 153 - Version D.pdf |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 153 |
| SB 159 RFH.pdf |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 159 |
| SB 159 Sponsor Statement.pdf |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 159 |
| SB 159.pdf |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 159 |
| SB 159 Sectional Analysis.PDF |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 159 |
| SB 159 Expanded Bullets on SSF area plans public process.pdf |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 159 |
| SB 159 Susitna State Forest Briefing Paper.pdf |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 159 |
| SB 159 Susitna State Forest Briefing Side by Side.pdf |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 159 |
| SB 159 Suuport Docs.pdf |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 159 |
| SB 159 MAPS.pdf |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 159 |
| SB 181 Hearing Request Memo.pdf |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 181 |
| SB 181 Sponsor Statement.pdf |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 181 |
| SB 181 ver M.pdf |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 181 |
| SB 181 Sectional Analysis.pdf |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 181 |
| SB 181 Supporting Document-Certification Letter Comm Sullivan DNR.pdf |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 181 |
| SB 181 Supporting Document-Findings of the Commissioner DNR.pdf |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 181 |
| SB 181 Supporting Document-Letters of Support with Index.PDF |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 181 |
| SB 205 hearing request.pdf |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 205 |
| SB 205 - SS.pdf |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 205 |
| SB 205 - version M.PDF |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 205 |
| SB 205 - Advisory Committees by Region.pdf |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 205 |
| SB 205 - Regional AC's regulations.PDF |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 205 |
| SB 205 Letters of Support.pdf |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 205 |
| SB159-DNR-FMD-03-09-12.pdf |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 159 |
| SB205-DOR-TRS-03-07-12.pdf |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 205 |
| SB205-DOA-DOF-02-22-12.pdf |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 205 |
| SB205-DCCED-DCRA-03-09-12.pdf |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 205 |
| SB205-DFG-CO-03-09-12.pdf |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 205 |
| SB 181 Supporting Document-AMA Letter, USDA Letter.PDF |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 181 |
| SB 159 Ruffed Grouse Soc.pdf |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 159 |
| SB123-DOA-FAC-3-11-12.pdf |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 123 |
| SB181-DNR-MLW-03-07-12.pdf |
SRES 3/12/2012 3:30:00 PM |
SB 181 |