Legislature(2015 - 2016)CAPITOL 106
04/02/2016 01:30 PM House HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES
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| Presentation: "aces" by Dr. Matthew Hirschfeld | |
| Presentation: Citizen Review Panel | |
| Presentation: "aces" by Dr. Matthew Hirschfeld | |
| HCR21 | |
| Presentation: Citizen Review Panel | |
| Adjourn |
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| *+ | HCR 21 | TELECONFERENCED | |
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HCR 21-RESPOND TO ADVERSE CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES
2:42:11 PM
CHAIR SEATON announced that the next order of business would be
HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 21, Urging Governor Bill Walker
to join with the Alaska State Legislature to respond to the
public and behavioral health epidemic of adverse childhood
experiences by establishing a statewide policy and providing
programs to address this epidemic.
2:42:40 PM
The committee took an at-ease from 2:42 p.m. to 2:43 p.m.
2:43:26 PM
REPRESENTATIVE TARR offered a PowerPoint presentation titled,
"Adverse Childhood Experience," [referred to slides 1-9] and
reminded the committee that these issues had been discussed in
committee previously. She noted that Dr. Hirschfeld's
presentation discussed the origins of the ACEs study and
developing an ACEs score and she said she would skip over those
topics. Previously, members had been asked to take their ACEs
score and pointed out that in asking people to take their ACEs
score it rises awareness and assists in understanding the issues
better. Key findings within the Alaska work is that childhood
trauma is far more common, it lasts over a lifetime, and impacts
generations. Research has shown that approximately $1.4 billion
is spent every year in Alaska on substance abuse related issues
from treatment to the court system to law enforcement, and she
referred to Dr. Hirschfeld's presentation regarding some of the
cost reductions that can be associated with reducing Alaska's
ACEs scores.
REPRESENTATIVE TARR explained that HCR 21 calls on the
legislature and the governor to work together to do more on
policy level changes. Last year, the legislature worked hard on
Erin's Law and Bree's Law, and the legislature discussed ACEs
through those bills. She then stressed the importance of
keeping that conversation going this year, to keep the
conversation going as more awareness needs to be developed with
education and some of this can be done without funding. She
pointed to slides 6-9, and advised that these are some of the
opportunities for prevention, and that during the interim the
committee will continue looking at policy alternative. In
working through the implementation of Erin's Law and Bree's Law,
she wants to make sure the legislature is part of the effort to
build a statewide network of people concerned about the issues
and come together.
2:45:57 PM
REPRESENTATIVE TARR advised there are 27 letters of support from
organizations across the state, such as the Children's Trust,
Suicide Prevention Council, Mental Health Board, Best
Beginnings, and also approximately 200 hundred individuals
signed petitions from different early learning conferences she
attended, from the Dr. Felitti event, and from the "Go Blue Day"
Child Abuse Prevention rally yesterday. In bringing all of
these groups together, she noted that her hope is to bring
together a network of people to determine that it isn't just
about spending more money on something, but more about having a
deeper understanding of these ACEs issues, and its impacts.
ACEs is about connecting the dots and within the letters of
support there are individuals working on mental health, early
learning, substance abuse, or suicide prevention. In
understanding ACEs it brings a new opportunity for connecting
the dots between the negative health outcomes and looking back
at the origins and determining what the origins of those
problems are.
REPRESENTATIVE TARR referred to an additional slide in the
committee packets from the All Alaska Pediatric Partnership
regarding ACEs accumulation and read, "Young Alaskans have
acquired HALF of their accumulated ACEs by the age of 3." She
explained that it speaks to the importance of the early
intervention programs. As Dr. Hirschfeld discussed,
pediatricians and other health care providers can be frontline
in that effort, and she added that early education folks such as
Best Beginnings are working on early education. There was a
time it was believed there was a protected wall around the fetus
and that the mother smoking and drinking was okay. It was also
believed that children in the pre-verbal times were unimpressed
by things, and that events could be happening around them and
there wasn't a big impact. To put this in context, she related,
the study referenced was published in 1989, and when thinking
about how recent that's been for people to learn about that data
and then start doing their own research, there really hasn't
been an opportunity to implement it into the state's policies in
a manner that can be implemented to have a tremendous impact.
This slide shows that a lot of the bad stuff is happening at the
time people previously believed children would not be impacted
by the behaviors around them, or even be aware of violence or
substance abuse, she said.
2:49:23 PM
REPRESENTATIVE TARR related that building awareness is part of
the effort that can be accomplished without funding a new
program, and through the efforts this month of child abuse
prevention and organizations hosting many different activities
sharing information and, hopefully, get more people involved.
Working with educators and practitioners and the government in
creating policy alternatives is the next step, she remarked.
2:49:56 PM
REPRESENTATIVE FOSTER expressed his support and that he
appreciated Dr. Hirschfeld's presentation and learning of his
efforts in his practice in Nome as it makes it more tangible for
him.
REPRESENTATIVE TARR related that these are long term investments
and as Dr. Hirschfeld related, within every step along the way
the state has opportunities to work with children when they are
in school, and that there are screening tools when meeting with
families. One big opportunity is just in changing the language
when there is a child with behavioral problems. The child
acting out is not asked what is wrong with them, but rather the
child is asked what happened to them. Things like this give her
hope and that even without a lot of funding, moving toward
something where most of it is simply understanding the
opportunities, and the different places that can be engaged in
sharing this information.
CHAIR SEATON noted his appreciation for both presentations and
that he found Dr. Hirschfeld's comments interesting because he
was unsure how much the medical community and quasi-medical
community had been involved with those types of care
coordination efforts with families. He related that it is good
to hear that they are not just looking at the child, but the
situation the child is in.
2:52:20 PM
REPRESENTATIVE FOSTER moved to report HCR 21, labeled 29-
LS1398\A out of committee with individual recommendations with
no fiscal notes.
CHAIR SEATON objected for discussion and read into the record
the language on page 3, lines 14-22, as follows:
BE IT RESOLVED that the state's policy decision
acknowledge and take into account the principles of
early childhood brain development and, whenever
possible, consider the concepts of toxic stress, early
adversity, and buffering relationships, and be it
FURTHER RESOLVED that early intervention and
investment in early childhood years are important
strategies to achieve a lasting foundation for a more
prosperous and sustainable state through investing in
human capital; and be it
FURTHER RESOLVED that the Governor join with the
Alaska State Legislature and address the presence of
adverse childhood experiences as factors for many
societal issues and to fund research for statewide
solutions.
CHAIR SEATON opened public testimony
2:52:20 PM
TREVOR STORRS, Executive Director, Alaska Children's Trust, said
the Alaska Children's Trust is focused on the prevention of
childhood abuse and neglect. He related that the Alaska
Children's Trust is also partnering with groups around the
concept of reducing trauma and building resiliency in the child,
the family, and the community. He noted that what has been
presented today is a complex issue and what the committee does
with this information is not about enacting one specific thing,
but it is the framework to help promote the concept of reducing
trauma adversity to not only the child, but a community and
cultures within Alaska. When these issues are addressed, not
only does it save money, it builds communities that can
withstand trauma which is a natural part of the circle of life,
but child abuse and neglect are not a natural part of the circle
of life. It is resiliency that glues that circle together and
the role of the community is to be certain the glue being used
is the strongest and best glue so everyone benefits, he said.
REPRESENTATIVE TARR asked Mr. Storrs to send information to the
committee members about the Resiliency Initiative.
MR. STORRS agreed.
2:56:37 PM
DON ROBERTS described himself as an adult survivor of these
adverse childhood experiences and in listening to the
presentations he noted that the system tends to forget that
there are many adults dealing with this in their lives with no
resources available to them. He agreed that the programs can be
initiated, but they are for children and families and he is 58
years old. He took the ACEs test and had a score of 7, although
it would have been higher if it asked a few other questions.
Adult programs need to be integrated so when adults get into the
system they are not just sidelined due to no services out there
because the legislature didn't put it in, he related. Due to
his adverse childhood experiences, having intimate family
relationships is troublesome because he doesn't want to be the
kind of parents he had where basically his childhood was filled
with anger and violence. He opined that this needs to be
included in the legislation. There are other services, such as
peer support services that are not necessarily part of the
mainstream clinical experience people should be able to use and,
he opined, peer support services are often given short shrift
when they tend to be far more effective in helping people deal
with these issues in their lives.
CHAIR SEATON offered support for his testimony and related that
there is definitely no one point in which addressing these
issues can be stopped.
3:00:28 PM
PATRICK ANDERSON, Senior Research Fellow, Sealaska Heritage
Institute, said he is a Senior Research Fellow in the area of
childhood trauma and health restoration, and has been engaged in
research and advocacy around adverse childhood experiences since
2008 when he was the CEO of an Alaska Native Rural Health
System. As a consequence of his advocacy he is a member of both
the American Indian and Alaska Native Task Force on suicide
prevention and president of the Native American Children's
Alliance (NACA), assisted in the drafting of this resolution,
and that his ACEs score is 6. He described the understanding of
the existence of real and identifiable childhood trauma being
linked to adult health and negative behaviors as an exciting new
arena of public policy. He then referred to Dr. Hirschfeld's
presentation and said that if childhood trauma can be identified
early in a child's life it can be addressed before it becomes a
true problem and prevention becomes a real option because
parents can be taught how to avoid the behaviors that cause the
development of this trauma in children. He referred to the
perception that the resolution addresses early childhood
prevention only, but that was not the intent. He referred to
HCR 21, page 3, lines 14-16, which read:
BE IT RESOLVED that the state's policy decision
acknowledge and take into account the principles of
early childhood brain development and, whenever
possible, consider the concepts of toxic stress, early
adversity, and buffering relationships, and bit it
MR. ANDERSON pointed out that it is directed toward adult health
and behaviors as well as early children's brain development,
health, and behaviors. He advised he has spent the last four or
five years looking for a systemic approach that addresses both
the parenting generation's behaviors and children's behaviors in
a family and community context. Mr. Anderson opined that the
goal is to introduce a program that effectively identifies
behaviors early enough to begin the healing process. Within the
City of Nome, where Dr. Hirschfeld practices, there has been a
discussion in the last few years around ACEs that has advanced
to the point of serious consideration. During the recent
convention of the National Congress of American Indians,
presentations were offered on the topic including a plenary
presentation by Dr. Vincent Felitti. Tribal groups in Alaska
have started the process of understanding and using ACEs and are
following examples from the lower-48. Dr. Ann Bullock is
employed by an Indian tribal health system addressing diabetes
through programs that identified and treated traumatic or toxic
stress. Dr. Donald Warne is an American Indian physician who
has been active through the Great Plains Tribal Chairman's
Health Board in addressing ACEs and there are many other who are
following their lead.
MR. ANDERSON referred to the Behavior Risk Factor Surveillance
System (BRFSS) and emphasized that Alaska Natives have a 4 or
more ACEs at a rate which is almost double that of the non-
Native population according to BRFSS. As a result, many of the
Alaska Native communities view this area as a priority to
address. When Dr. Felitti was in Juneau, they took the
opportunity to meet with Governor Bill Walker, Lieutenant
Governor Byron Mallott, Commissioner Dean Williams of the
Department of Corrections, and Jay Butler the Alaska Chief
Medical Officer. They briefed Governor Walker on this issue,
made him aware of the legislation, and asked Governor Walker to
support it. Mr. Anderson opined that this resolution has great
potential for encouraging a wider discussion of ACEs in Alaska
and if it leads to more programing to address prevention,
earlier intervention, and healing that would be fantastic. He
then asked that the committee pass HCR 21 out of committee and
encouraged the adoption of the resolution by the legislature.
3:05:58 PM
MAUREEN HALL, School Nurse, said she is a school nurse in Juneau
and she fully supports this resolution because [nurses] daily
see children on the frontline in their offices. These children
typically have a high ACEs score, and are seen most often which
carries over into adult medicine when they leave the school
setting. These individuals, she said, are the heaviest users of
the health care system, are most apt to have poor educational
outcomes, and end up engaging with the criminal justice system.
As far as the savings being 20 years down the road, she argued
that the savings will be immediate because those children will
not be as sick as their peers when they have a lower ACEs score.
It will prevent a lot of the adversity and they'll be healthier,
and be better able to learn once they do get to school. She
pointed out that this is important in raising awareness
throughout our state, and she would like every school in the
state become a trauma informed school, as well as Alaska's
communities. By every police officer and teacher understanding
how the adverse childhood experiences affect a person, she
opined that it would go a long way toward preventing and
increasing awareness, and helping that person be more successful
down the road.
CHAIR SEATON removed his objection. There being no objection,
HCR 21, Version 29-LS1398\A, with no fiscal notes, passed from
the House Health, Education and Social Services Standing
Committee.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| Dr. Hirschfield_ACES-April 2, 2016.pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 12:15:00 PM HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
Presentation - HHSS |
| HCR 21 - Support Jorgensen.pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
HCR 21 |
| HCR 21 - Support Hirschfeld.pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
HCR 21 |
| HCR 21 - Support Hummel.pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
HCR 21 |
| HCR 21 - Support JSPC Hummel.pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
HCR 21 |
| HCR 21 - Support Kate Burkhart.pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
HCR 21 |
| HCR 21 - Support Nakamura.pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
HCR 21 |
| HCR 21 - Support Pastorino.pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
HCR 21 |
| HCR 21 - Support Roberts Jr..pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
HCR 21 |
| HCR 21 - Support S.Trivette.pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
HCR 21 |
| HCR 21 - Support Sealaska.pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
HCR 21 |
| HCR 21 - Support Woodard.pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
HCR 21 |
| HCR 21 - Support Storrs.pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
HCR 21 |
| HCR 21 Sponsor Statement.pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
HCR 21 |
| HCR 21 Version A.PDF |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
HCR 21 |
| HCR 21 - Background_ Reverse Alchemy in Childhood.pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
HCR 21 |
| HCR 21 - Background_CDC-injury prevention and control.pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
HCR 21 |
| HCR 21 - Letter of Support- AECAG.pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
HCR 21 |
| HCR 21 - Support Fuller.pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
HCR 21 |
| HCR 21 - Support Douglas.pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
HCR 21 |
| HCR 21 - Support G.Trivette.pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
HCR 21 |
| Citizen Review Panel_HSS Presentation 03292016.pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
Presentation - HHSS |
| CRP-2015-Annual-Report-Appendices.pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
Presentation - HHSS |
| Citizen Review Panel_Letter to the House HSS Committee_03282016.pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
Presentation- HHSS |
| CRP 2015 Annual Report.pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
Presentation - HHSS |
| Alaska CRP 2016 ICWA report.pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
Presentation - HHSS |
| HCR 21 - Support Abbe Hensley.pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
HCR 21 |
| HCR 21 - Support Gail AK Association for Infant .pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
HCR 21 |
| HCR 21 - Background_The Origins of Addiction.pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
HCR 21 |
| BIA-Providers-Conference-Survey-Results-Final-Report.pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
Presentation - HHSS |
| HCR 21 Background- ACEs-Accumulation-AAPP.pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
HCR 21 |
| HCR 21 Presentation Adverse Childhood Experiences March 2016.pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
HCR 21 |
| ACE'sToxicStress_Patrick Anderson.pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
Presentation - HHSS |
| ACE'sToxicStress2_Patrick Anderson.pdf |
HHSS 4/2/2016 1:30:00 PM |
Presentation - HHSS |