Legislature(2015 - 2016)BARNES 124
03/23/2016 01:00 PM House RESOURCES
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HB 254-EXTEND BIG GAME COMMERCIAL SERVICES BOARD
1:08:00 PM
CO-CHAIR TALERICO announced that the first order of business is
HOUSE BILL NO. 254, "An Act extending the termination date of
the Big Game Commercial Services Board; and providing for an
effective date."
1:08:17 PM
REPRESENTATIVE LOUISE STUTES, Alaska State Legislature,
introduced her staff member, Mr. Steve Handy, and advised that
he would walk the committee through the bill.
1:09:01 PM
STEVE HANDY, Staff, Representative Louise Stutes, Alaska State
Legislature, explained that HB 254 would extend the termination
date of the Big Game Commercial Services Board by three years,
from June 30, 2016 to June 30, 2019. The board is staffed by
the Division of Corporations, Business, and Professional
Licensing, and consists of two licensed and registered guide
outfitters, two licensed transporters, two private land owners,
two public members, and one member of the Board of Game. The
board provides a legislative command to assist in resource
conservation and consumer protection, it develops professional
and ethical standards, administers exams, makes final licensing
decisions, and takes civil action against persons who violate
regulations. He advised that the board members are appointed by
the governor, confirmed by the legislature, and its regulated
professions include: assistant guides, Class-A assistant
guides, master guide outfitters, registered guide outfitters,
retired guide outfitters, and transporters. According to the
report entitled, "Economic Impacts of Guided Hunting in Alaska,"
for the Alaska Professional Hunters Association prepared by the
McDowell Group, the 2012 research "Guided Hunting in Alaska"
accounted for a total of 2,210 jobs and $35 million in total
labor income, including all direct, indirect, and induced
impacts. Guided hunting generated a total of $78 million in
economic activity in Alaska in 2012, and guided hunters
purchased approximately $2 million in hunting licenses and game
tags. Due to an oversight by the legislature, the board was
allowed to sunset which caused catastrophic effects and the
sunset contributed to the financial difficulties reflected in
the legislative audit before the committee; however, in December
2015 the board was reinstated by the legislature. He related
that the Big Game Commercial Services Board is essential to the
safety of hunters, guides, and transporters coming to Alaska to
harvest its natural resources and for the management of the
resource itself. He asked that the committee pass HB 254, and
secure the Big Game Commercial Services Board.
1:12:01 PM
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON noted that the board was sunset for
approximately ten years, although he doubted the board wanted to
sunset, and inquired as to why the costs incurred while the
board was dissolved to do what would have been the board's
activities are now the board's problem.
REPRESENTATIVE STUTES deferred to Mr. Dick Rohrer.
DICK ROHRER replied that the easy answer is that the costs
associated with the guide industry licensing, with or without a
board, through the Department of Commerce, Community & Economic
Development (DCCED), become the responsibility of the licensees.
Not everyone believes that is exactly fair, he noted, but that
is his understanding of how it has worked in the past.
1:14:34 PM
JANEY HOVENDEN, Director, Division of Corporations, Business,
and Professional Licensing, Department of Commerce, Community &
Economic Development (DCCED), noted the fiscal note is $22,300,
which breaks down to costs to advertise for board meetings.
These costs are directly associated with administering the
board, which includes travel for face-to-face meetings, room
rental, and other fees associated with booking travel. Other
costs of the program would still be borne by the licensees that
are not associated directly with board meetings, she explained.
1:15:47 PM
REPRESENTATIVE TARR pointed to the presentation Ms. Hovenden
gave to the Senate Labor and Commerce Standing Committee, which
she described as more of an overview of the Division of
Corporations, Business and Professional Licensing and which
included program deficits. She asked whether it was included
within this particular presentation in order to give the
committee an overview of the division's current status and
challenges, because it appears fees will overcome the deficit
here in the near term.
MS. HOVENDEN responded that she used the Big Game Commercial
Services Board as an example of the [division's] new tool for
fee analysis. The tool projected out based on costs and
revenues received in the past, and how by adjusting the fees a
determination could be made as to how much revenue will come in
and whether it will not only cover term expenses but the carry
forward deficit. The tool projects out for three more
bienniums, she explained.
1:17:02 PM
REPRESENTATIVE TARR observed that by 2020 that deficit is
eliminated and from that point forward there would not be a
deficit associated with activities.
MS. HOVENDEN requested Representative Tarr repeat her question.
REPRESENTATIVE TARR pointed to the chart entitled, "Projected
Programs and Surplus," and asked whether it reflects the entire
division, or the Big Game Commercial Services Board. She said
that in the House Health, Education and Social Services Standing
Committee Ms. Hovenden sounded like the division is stressed
with the number of responsibilities and staff.
MS. HOVENDEN replied that the presentation in the House Health,
Education and Social Services Standing Committee was a picture
of the entire division and all of the different balances of all
of the different programs. In the event everything stays the
same, the division anticipates that all programs would be out
[of deficit] by 2020. The anticipation is that the Big Game
Commercial Services Board will be out of deficit by 2019 at the
latest if the division stays as aggressively on these fees as it
has put into place, she explained.
CO-CHAIR TALERICO opened public testimony on HB 254.
1:19:07 PM
THOR STACEY, Lobbyist, Alaska Professional Hunters Association,
stated that the Alaska Professional Hunters Association is in
strong, unanimous support of HB 254 because the Big Game
Commercial Services Board is an essential institution for the
industry. The Alaska Professional Hunters Association
represents hunting guides in Alaska, it is the only professional
association representing hunting guides and, he pointed out, the
general public owns the wildlife resources. He put forth that
the general public decided that hunting guides should be
licensed. Having a board to assist and operate as an
intermediary between the division, the general public, and the
industry as a whole, is essential. He advised that he works
with the association at board and legislative meetings on
hunting guide issues.
REPRESENTATIVE TARR pointed to the potential licensing fee
increases and asked whether there was no opposition because
folks understand the need to keep up with the overall costs for
the programs.
MR. STACEY related that it would be irresponsible of him to say
there is no opposition, but he could say that the industry as a
whole and the Alaska Professional Hunters Association recognizes
the responsibility they have in this relationship and are
willing to pull their own weight.
1:21:30 PM
JOE KLUTSCH testified in support of HB 254. He related that he
has lived in King Salmon for over 45 years, worked in commercial
fishing, sport fishing, and guiding, and is deeply involved in
this process. This [board] serves a vital public function in
protecting the resources and, he pointed out, statutes drive
regulations and regulations are what it takes to enforce
activities in the field. The board provides the vehicle for
designing proper regulations and taking disciplinary actions
when necessary. He offered that there is some resistance to the
fee increases because many guides are unaware of the
investigative costs incurred by the Department of Commerce,
Community & Economic Development with the resultant doubling
general license fees and the additional fees related to hunt
records. However, he continued, the people who care about the
profession and the conservation dimension in this are willing to
foot the bill because the board is a vital instrument for the
future of good game management and all members of the public,
not just the guiding industry.
1:24:29 PM
JASON BUNCH said he supports HB 254 because the Big Game
Commercial Services Board enhances Alaska's guide industry with
consistent regulation of licenses and helps to provide educated
professionals representing Alaska. In addition, he related,
when the board convenes it becomes an invaluable opportunity for
the division, agency personnel, and licensees to meet and
discuss real time concerns. Regarding the budget, he said he
supports the most recent increase of fees and looks to those
changes to result in a balanced budget.
1:25:15 PM
FRANK BISHOP offered his support for HB 254, and advised he is a
master guide and has been a guide for over 30 years in Kodiak.
He said he agrees with the previous testifiers in that the Big
Game Commercial Services Board is a vital asset to the guide
industry and it is not something to take lightly, and few guides
do. He asked that the committee to let the bill move forward.
1:26:14 PM
PAUL CHERVENAK stated he fully supports HB 254, and that he is a
25 year Alaska master guide. He pointed out that the guides are
some of the best stewards of the resource, they know the
industry and give a lot of their time, and believe in helping
develop standards to manage the industry and make it one of the
most professional around. The Big Game Commercial Services
Board enables this, he remarked.
1:27:01 PM
MR. ROHRER testified that he has lived in Kodiak approximately
46 years. He urged the committee to support and pass HB 254 out
of committee today. He said he was a board member when the
board was reinstated in 2005, and during that time he paid close
attention to the budget. During the time periods 2005-2007 the
budget looked good, but under Governor Sean Parnell's
administration there was a new more professional look at the
budget. Suddenly $100,000 of revenue disappeared, he continued,
but he does not know where the money went. That was in the past
and now the industry has a good professional handle on the
budget, budget reporting, and understands its status. It is
anticipated the board will be out of its deficit position within
the next three years before it comes up for sunset again.
1:29:06 PM
KAREN POLLEY, Vice Chair, Big Game Commercial Services Board,
related she has been the Vice Chair and Public Representative of
the Big Game Commercial Services Board for approximately five
years. She said the guides are concerned about the continuation
of that resource which is a public resource, and the board
strives to be offer the guides and people an educational
opportunity each time they attend the meetings. The guides and
transporters participate in committee meetings that help develop
the regulations that govern their actions. The board staff is
paid by the Department of Commerce, Community & Economic
Development. The board has many cases, including approximately
49 people on probation; the board recently closed 51 cases,
which are primarily by consent agendas - people who agree there
was a violation and are willing to accept the results of that
violation; plus there are open cases. The budget has been a
concern and she followed Mr. Rohrer in the process of studying
the budget to understand how the indirect costs and direct costs
for operations were impacting the board and the deficit. She
related that the board has been aware it needed to raise fees
and as a result of the audit the board is doubling fees to close
the deficit and move forward, which will cost the people who use
the resource. The board itself is made up of a variety of
people representing different organizations, and she expressed
that she is proud to be a public member of that organization.
1:31:44 PM
REPRESENTATIVE TARR advised there is another piece of
legislation related to restitution and asked Ms. Polley to
generally comment on what the type of open cases the board has,
and whether there are trends in the cases.
MS. POLLEY replied that there are a variety of violations, a
significant number being sub-legal animals and paperwork
violations. The board tries to handle the disciplinary actions
according to the intensity and impact of what is happening, such
that sub-legal animals directly affect the resource, and with
paperwork violations the board tends to ask the violator to not
do it again, to have an understanding of their responsibilities,
and that they handle the paperwork obligations. When the board
actually removes licenses, they are often criminal cases that
have been prosecuted and the board performs the final action of
removing the license.
1:33:35 PM
FRED PARADY, Deputy Commissioner, Department of Commerce,
Community & Economic Development (DCCED), explained that in his
role as deputy commissioner he supervises the Division of
Corporations, Business, and Professional Licensing. He said the
department supports the extension of the sunset included in HB
254 and appreciates the quality of the 2015 audit by Legislative
Budget and Audit. He paraphrased from the conclusion section of
the audit, which states:
Overall, the audit concludes the board has provided
reasonable assurance that individuals licensed to
guide and/or outfit hunts, as well as transport
hunters to and from hunt locations, in Alaska are
qualified to do so. Additionally, the board's
regulation and licensing of qualified guides, guide-
outfitters and transporter benefited the public's
safety and safeguarded the state's wildlife resources.
In recognition that the board reported an operating
deficit of over $1 million as of April 30, 2015, we
recommend extending the board only three years under
the condition that the board demonstrate the ability
to address its deficit during the legislative sunset
review process. The board believes proposed
regulations that increase licensing fees and create
new record processing fees will address its deficit by
the end of FY17. If the board fails to demonstrate
the ability to address its operating deficit, we
recommend it be considered for termination.
1:34:51 PM
MR. PARADY turned to the four recommendations. He noted that
the first recommendation concerned public notice. Those
policies have now been rewritten and those activities have been
consolidated to a single person to ensure the division's
accountability to notify the public.
MR. PARADY said the second recommendation concerned
investigations. Chief Angela Birt has been the division's lead
investigator since 2014 and tightened the division's
accountability in the investigation processes. Chief Birt,
after identifying the length of time a file might sit,
instituted a tickler system to give notice to the investigators
they have a gap, which is often due to a file being referred to
the Alaska State Troopers or somewhere else and the division is
awaiting action. The division then made the gap period a core
element in its performance evaluation of it investigators, and
also included it in the quarterly meetings where case files are
reviewed to be certain the division is keeping up.
MR. PARADY turned to the third recommendation of the audit
regarding fees and advised that fees have been substantially
increased. At the close of fiscal year, June 30, 2015, there
was a $1.1 million deficit. In December, mid-year of fiscal
year 2016, that deficit is just under $900,000, so the
profession has closed the deficit by $235,000. He explained
that these licenses are on a two year renewal cycle, and the
division is anticipating closing the gap by $535,000 in this two
year cycle, and the other $535,000 in the next two year cycle,
thereby erasing the deficit by the close of FY 2019. He related
that it is worth noting that the board is operating in the black
today. That deficit grew because it was not being closed and
all the while it was being added to because of being in the red.
By operating in the black the division is reducing the deficit
and the board is to be commended for its action in that area.
MR. PARADY said the fourth recommendation concerned transporter
licensing and updating the form which is now complete. In
closing, he stated the board is necessary to guide the
profession and division in the regulation of the profession.
Whether the board is in existence or not, the licensing
requirements are still on the books and are required. He
stressed that this is a complex specialized area and the
division appreciates the board's services to the profession,
division, and citizens of Alaska.
1:37:50 PM
MARK RICHARDS, Executive Director, Resident Hunters of Alaska,
stated that his organization opposes HB 254 and believes the Big
Game Commercial Services Board should be sunset. He said his
organization is concerned with issues that affect resident
hunters. He said the Big Game Commercial Services Board was
originally the guide board intended to regulate guides, it was
never intended to regulate private landowners, small business,
or resident hunters. At the last Big Game Commercial Services
Board meeting he said he testified to federal aviation case law
and that the entire transporter system is unconstitutional.
Subsequently, the board reviewed the case law and voted to send
a review to the Department of Law. That review has not started
yet, but if case law is correct that would throw the entire
transporter system out the window. In an effort to relieve some
of the board's debt, without public notice and without a quorum
it added a $50 fee to every air taxi that had chosen to be a
transporter - for every mandated hunt activity report turned in
the transporters then received a retroactive notice that they
owed this fee. He remarked that many transporters testified
that they will no longer be a transporter if they have to have
the fee, they will add it on to their charters and charge
residents for this fee. Resident Hunters of Alaska believes
that many transporters will get out and then those fees will not
be involved. Guides have tried to regulate hunters such that if
a person owned a cabin on a lagoon in Kodiak and rented out
skiffs, the board passed regulations where that person had to be
a big game guide outfitter in order to rent those skiffs or rent
tents, he said. The board decided that this person could not do
that if "quote, in the field, unquote"; the person would have to
go to the nearest airport in Kodiak to be able to rent that
skiff out. He opined that this board should stick to regulating
guides, not do things that affect resident hunters. He posited
that the debt will never be paid off because the transporter
issue will go out the window and the $50 fee will disappear.
1:40:47 PM
EDDIE GRASSER, Lobbyist, Safari International, advised that for
the most part he is representing Safari International, and
testified in support of HB 254. He explained that Safari
International has over 3,000 members in Alaska, plus worldwide
membership. He opined that in order to have safe reputable
hunting opportunities for people choosing to hire a guide, there
must be an avenue to ensure those people are professionally
vetted. Mr. Grasser said he has been involved in hunting for
over 60 years, with 35 years as a professional, although he has
not guided since 2001. He remarked that he is a resident hunter
who believes that a well regulated industry is beneficial to
resident hunters. Mr. Grasser said he has hunted in areas of
the state where transporters were dumping so many people in the
field that it was like a zoo, and there should be some mechanism
for regulating or ascertaining that there are professional
levels within that industry. He commented that this is an
industry where many things are at stake, including potential
risk of life and limb by being out there in the elements and
many times away from being rescued if something goes wrong. He
asked the committee whether it prefers an unregulated industry
with dangerous aspects to it, or a board regulating professional
standards. Pointing to the Board of Barbers & Hairdressers, he
noted that no life or limb is in jeopardy in those professions.
1:43:07 PM
ROD ARNO, Executive Director, Alaska Outdoor Council, offered
the Alaska Outdoor Council's (AOC) support for HB 254 and
extension of the termination of the Big Game Commercial Services
Board. He said AOC supported the board during its original
creation and creation after the sunset. Federal land managers
are putting more pressure on the guiding industry on federal
lands and it is causing more conflict on the available state
lands for all Alaska residents to hunt as well as having a
regulated industry. He [disagreed] with the idea of terminating
this board which has been trying to come to grips with
regulating the guide, air taxi, and charter industry. He
reiterated that the federal land managers are trying to exclude
the use of the industry as well as personal use and it will only
be compounded in the future.
1:45:00 PM
KRIS CURTIS, Legislative Auditor, Legislative Budget and Audit,
Alaska State Legislature, advised that Legislative Budget and
Audit performed the sunset audit and reviewed whether the board
was serving the public's interest and whether it should be
extended. It was found that the board was serving the public's
interest and therefore a conditional extension was recommended.
It was conditional upon the board demonstrating during this
legislative review process that it had the capacity and ability
to address its $1 million deficit. At the point of the audit
last August, there were proposed regulations to institute new
fees, and specifically new fees on hunt records and activity
reports, which is a new type of fee for the board. Because the
fees were proposed, her office had no assurance at the time that
they would be adopted, so her office made this conditional
recommendation because she envisioned that those regulations may
be adopted by this point. She noted she has not yet heard
testimony to that effect and a good question to ask would be
whether those fees are officially in place. Her office reviewed
the proposed fees last summer, did some number crunching, and
concluded t it was reasonable that if the fees were instituted
they would address the deficit within the next few years.
Because Mr. Parady addressed the four recommendations, she said
she would not go into detail unless there were questions.
1:46:47 PM
REPRESENTATIVE TARR referred to the recommendation to improve
the timeliness of investigations and asked for Ms. Curtis's
thoughts on that component because it had been mentioned as
something making it more costly.
MS. CURTIS replied that handling the cost of investigations is a
problem for all of the boards because it is hard to budget
prospectively on how much those investigations will cost and to
incorporate those costs as far as the fees. It creates highs
and lows, and the occupations have a hard time understanding
when those fee increases happen, she explained, and this board
is no different as it does have a high case load. Her office
tested 25 cases and found that 17 of the 25 had periods of
inactivity, ranging from five months to five years, which were
extensive and resulted in the recommendation. During the 2011
audit, her office noted there were numerous problems with the
investigative process, and this time around they found
improvements and only identified timeliness as an issue for
correction, she remarked.
1:48:08 PM
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON asked whether the transporter issue was
reviewed as part of the audit.
MS. CURTIS asked Representative Seaton to zero in on the
transporter issue.
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON referred to previous testimony wherein the
transporter fees were enacted at a board meeting without a
quorum and public notice, and he noted that the testifier had
statutory questions. He asked whether that issue was part of
the audit.
MS. CURTIS answered that the fees would have been part of
regulation changes and she would expect those to go through the
standard process, and her office has had no problem in looking
at any changes the board made during the audit period. The
board complied with the regulatory public notices and comments,
but those fee changes would have happened after the audit period
so she said she couldn't address those specifically.
1:49:20 PM
CO-CHAIR TALERICO requested Mr. Parady to comment with regard to
the fees.
MR. PARADY stated the fees were properly noticed and were
adopted after completion of the audit by Ms. Curtis's office.
So, they were adopted this fall and are in place for this
renewal cycle. Given the transporter fee is new and as it
settles in and people become adapted to it, it may be necessary
to come back before the board and consider further regulatory
change to address the concerns expressed earlier; those kind of
concerns happen with anything that is new. He then echoed an
earlier testifier that it is a well regulated industry that
serves resident hunters as well as non-resident hunters. Mr.
Parady noted that the proposed conditional extension of three
years instead of five puts it on the path to erasing the deficit
and also provides the opportunity for legislative oversight in
moving forward. He reiterated that the regulations were adopted
and pointed out that this industry provides 2,000 jobs and is a
vital part of the tourism sector of Alaska's economy, which is
one of the brighter spots in the dismal news that the
legislature is currently coping with.
CO-CHAIR TALERICO closed public testimony after ascertaining
that no one else wished to testify.
1:51:44 PM
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON referred to the entire board process
and related that he was struck by a system that requires boards
and commissions to self-finance. Although, this process is good
in the abstract, except when there is a small membership and a
"bad apple," then the fees spike and the others have to pay for
that investigation and litigation. In addition, he said he
identified a number of times in the legislative budget and audit
process where there was a greater public interest served by a
good investigation without making fees escalate in some unfair
manner. In other words, this is a comment for the committee
members and he opined that there are many governmental things
the government doesn't recoup, and for some reason with boards
and commissions the legislature deems they must fund all of
their activities, and these people are volunteering their time.
He acknowledged that this is not the right year to have a fund
cover overages but he has seen this happen repeatedly and it
appears illogical at some level. He added that this was his
first lesson in learning how departments jealously guard their
time. He related the phenomenon wherein a member of the board
calls the department, the department notes the call lasted ten
minutes and then, because "clerk one" responded to the question,
the department bills the board for its time. Even though it
gives the legislature a good accounting mechanism to determine
who is costing what, he said his question is that this is the
State of Alaska and isn't everyone in this together.
1:54:20 PM
REPRESENTATIVE TARR thanked the witnesses who supported the fees
and their willingness to pay an increased fee to help support
the board's activities. She said she admires those people and
groups for standing up and helping the legislature find
solutions. This is important to tourism and good management,
she said, and she appreciates people's willingness to help out.
1:54:53 PM
REPRESENTATIVE HERRON noted that he hunts within his home region
and not in other states, and remembers the days when Alaska did
not have the oversight and how it became a rather wild place
with people coming into the state. He opined that not only for
big game outfitters and transporters, there has to be a
legitimate and strong oversight because it's too easy to do too
many things. He reminded the committee that recently there have
been high profile news articles about how people have taken
advantage of Alaska. The financial fees are going to be
addressed, this is an oversight process that is important to
Alaska, and he supports the legislation, he said.
1:56:16 PM
CO-CHAIR NAGEAK moved to report HB 254 out of committee with
individual recommendations and the accompanying fiscal notes.
There being no objection, HB 254 was reported from the House
Resources Standing Committee.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| HB254 Sponsor Statement.pdf |
HRES 3/23/2016 1:00:00 PM |
HB 254 |
| HB254 Supporting Documents-Email AK Trophy Adventures 2-11-2016.pdf |
HRES 3/23/2016 1:00:00 PM |
HB 254 |
| HB254 Supporting Documents-Email APHA 2-12-2016.pdf |
HRES 3/23/2016 1:00:00 PM |
HB 254 |
| HB254 Supporting Documents-Email James P Jacobson 2-15-2016.pdf |
HRES 3/23/2016 1:00:00 PM |
HB 254 |
| HB254 Supporting Documents-Email Sam Rohrer 1-21-2016.pdf |
HRES 3/23/2016 1:00:00 PM |
HB 254 |
| HB254 Supporting Documents-Email Steve H Perrins II 1-26-2016.pdf |
HRES 3/23/2016 1:00:00 PM |
HB 254 |
| HB254 Supporting Documents-Letter Joe Klutsch 2-22-2016.PDF |
HRES 3/23/2016 1:00:00 PM |
HB 254 |
| BGCS LBA Audit.pdf |
HRES 3/23/2016 1:00:00 PM |
HB 254 |
| HB254 ver A.PDF |
HRES 3/23/2016 1:00:00 PM |
HB 254 |
| HB0177A.PDF |
HRES 3/23/2016 1:00:00 PM |
HB 177 |
| HB 177 Sponsor.pdf |
HRES 3/23/2016 1:00:00 PM |
HB 177 |
| HB 177 Salmon stamps.pdf |
HRES 3/23/2016 1:00:00 PM |
HB 177 |
| HB 177 FiscalNote.pdf |
HRES 3/23/2016 1:00:00 PM |
HB 177 |
| HB 177 ARRC Annual Art Program Costs (2015).pdf |
HRES 3/23/2016 1:00:00 PM |
HB 177 |
| HB 177 alaska duck stamps ebay.pdf |
HRES 3/23/2016 1:00:00 PM |
HB 177 |
| HB177 RR costs.pdf |
HRES 3/23/2016 1:00:00 PM |
HB 177 |
| HB 254 SCI Alaska.pdf |
HRES 3/23/2016 1:00:00 PM |
HB 254 |
| HB 254 FiscalNote.php.pdf |
HRES 3/23/2016 1:00:00 PM |
HB 254 |