Legislature(2023 - 2024)BARNES 124
05/03/2023 03:15 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE
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ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE
HOUSE LABOR AND COMMERCE STANDING COMMITTEE
May 3, 2023
2:50 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Representative Jesse Sumner, Chair
Representative Justin Ruffridge, Vice Chair
Representative Mike Prax
Representative Dan Saddler
Representative Stanley Wright
Representative Ashley Carrick
Representative Zack Fields
MEMBERS ABSENT
All members present
COMMITTEE CALENDAR
HOUSE BILL NO. 97
"An Act relating to self-storage facilities for personal
property, including vehicles and watercraft; distinguishing
self-storage facility liens from another type of storage lien;
and excluding self-storage liens from the treatment of certain
unclaimed property."
- MOVED CSHB 97(L&C) OUT OF COMMITTEE
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION
BILL: HB 97
SHORT TITLE: SELF-STORAGE UNITS: LIENS; SALES
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) PRAX
03/06/23 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS
03/06/23 (H) L&C, JUD
03/24/23 (H) L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124
03/24/23 (H) Heard & Held
03/24/23 (H) MINUTE(L&C)
04/14/23 (H) L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124
04/14/23 (H) Heard & Held
04/14/23 (H) MINUTE(L&C)
05/01/23 (H) L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124
05/01/23 (H) Heard & Held
05/01/23 (H) MINUTE(L&C)
05/03/23 (H) L&C AT 3:15 PM BARNES 124
WITNESS REGISTER
NATHANIEL DYE, Owner
Juneau Self Storage
Juneau, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Gave invited testimony during the hearing
on HB 97.
DARREL SMITH, General Manager
Best Storage
Anchorage, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Gave invited testimony during the hearing
on HB 97.
PAUL SCHNEIDER, Owner
Storage Solutions North
Chugiak, Alaska
POSITION STATEMENT: Gave invited testimony during the hearing
on HB 97.
ACTION NARRATIVE
3:15:46 PM
CHAIR JESSE SUMNER called the House Labor and Commerce Standing
Committee meeting to order at 3:15 p.m. Representatives Prax,
Wright, Ruffridge, and Sumner were present at the call to order.
Representatives Saddler, Fields, and Carrick arrived as the
meeting was in progress.
HB 97-SELF-STORAGE UNITS: LIENS; SALES
3:16:04 PM
CHAIR SUMNER announced that the only order of business would be
HOUSE BILL NO. 97, "An Act relating to self-storage facilities
for personal property, including vehicles and watercraft;
distinguishing self-storage facility liens from another type of
storage lien; and excluding self-storage liens from the
treatment of certain unclaimed property." [Before the committee
was the committee substitute (CS) for HB 97, labeled, 33-
LS0392\S, Dunmire, 4/25/23, ("Version S"), adopted 5/1/233 as a
working document.]
3:16:44 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CARRICK moved to adopt Amendment 3 to Version S,
labeled, 33-LS0392\B.1, Dunmire, 3/28/23, which read as follows:
Page 3, line 3:
Delete "or"
Insert "and"
Following "recent":
Insert "electronic mail address and mailing"
Page 3, line 17:
Delete "20"
Insert "30"
CHAIR SUMNER objected.
3:16:50 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CARRICK noted that the amendment had been drafted
to the previous version of the proposed legislation, with the
lines the amendment is drafted on being the only difference.
She explained that Amendment 3 would require notification by
email and postage mail and increase the total number of days
required for notification from 20 to 30.
3:18:01 PM
REPRESENTATIVE WRIGHT asked for the bill sponsor's opinion on
the amendment.
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX expressed the opinion that the amendment is
unnecessary because the proposed legislation only sets minimum
requirements, and storage owners could make any changes, as the
maximum would not be set. He added that the language "mail"
would imply certified mail, and this would be a burden on
storage facility owners.
3:19:29 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CARRICK responded that many Alaskans live in
rural areas and making the process duplicative would be
beneficial to them.
3:20:23 PM
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS commented that email systems often
incorrectly mark messages as spam.
3:20:58 PM
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE expressed opposition to the amendment,
as these notices would be for a renter already in default;
therefore, the burden should fall on them.
3:22:00 PM
A roll call vote was taken. Representatives Carrick and Fields
voted in favor of Amendment 3 to HB 97. Representatives Wright,
Ruffridge, Saddler, Prax, and Sumner voted against it.
Therefore, Amendment 3 failed by a vote of 5-2.
3:22:36 PM
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS moved to adopt Amendment 1 to HB 97,
labeled, 33-LS0392\S.1, Dunmire, 5/2/23, which read as follow:
Page 2, lines 1-2:
Delete ", labor, late fees, and other charges,
and for expenses reasonably incurred in the sale or
other disposition of the property under law"
Insert "and late fees"
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE objected.
3:22:41 PM
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS explained that Amendment 1 would place
limits on the number of late fees rental facility owners would
be able to impose.
3:24:10 PM
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER expressed opposition to the amendment,
opining that late fees should not be allowed only in the event
of delinquency.
3:25:25 PM
NATHANIEL DYE, Owner, Juneau Self Storage, providing invited
testimony, stated that storage facility owners usually only
recover approximately 30 percent of lost fees when auctioning
off a storage unit, and this is in addition to paying for an
auctioneer. He expressed opposition to the amendment.
3:26:43 PM
DARREL SMITH, General Manager, Best Storage, provided invited
testimony, stating that storage facilities are usually not able
to collect any [excess] fees charged [after default], and he
expressed opposition to the amendment.
3:27:30 PM
PAUL SCHNEIDER, Owner, Storage Solutions North, provided invited
testimony and expressed opposition to the amendment. He stated
that storage facility owners lose money on lost rent, in
addition to other fees, such as hauling trash to the dump.
3:28:16 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CARRICK expressed uncertainty about the other
possible fees there may be. She argued that the amendment would
protect against unnecessary fees.
3:29:20 PM
REPRESENTATIVE WRIGHT asked for the bill sponsor's opinion on
the amendment.
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX said that a rental facility agreement
assumes a tenant will clean out the storage unit and expressed
the opinion that those in default often leave behind junk.
3:30:50 PM
A roll call vote was taken. Representatives Carrick and Fields
voted in favor of Amendment 1 to HB 97. Representatives
Ruffridge, Saddler, Wright, Prax, and Sumner voted against it.
Therefore, Amendment 1 failed by a vote of 5-2.
3:31:28 PM
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS moved to adopt Amendment 2 to HB 97,
labeled, 33-LS0392\S.4, Dunmire, 5/2/23, which read as follow:
Page 2, line 22:
Delete "10"
Insert "15"
Page 3, line 9:
Delete "10"
Insert "75"
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER objected.
3:31:38 PM
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS stated that Amendment 2 would change the
bill's language to allow for 90 days of recovery after default.
3:32:16 PM
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX commented that the bill's purpose is to
establish minimum requirements and expressed the opinion that
the amendment is not necessary.
3:33:04 PM
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS asked Mr. Smith to offer his thoughts on
the amendment.
MR. SMITH answered that individuals often use storage facilities
in times of crisis and allowing for 90 days would give them a
chance to recover.
3:34:42 PM
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER expressed opposition to the amendment
because it would be the renter's failure to uphold this part of
the contract.
3:35:51 PM
REPRESENTATIVE CARRICK commented that it is possible for a
person going through a personal crisis to be unaware of the
default. She said that the amendment would give a chance for a
renter to recover and avoid losing property.
3:37:08 PM
A roll call vote was taken. Representatives Carrick and Fields
voted in favor of Amendment 2 to HB 97. Representatives
Ruffridge, Wright, Prax, Saddler, and Sumner voted against it.
Therefore, Amendment 2 failed by a vote of 5-2.
3:37:43 PM
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX expressed the opinion that the proposed bill
would give storage facility owners and operators a better way to
deal with abandoned property.
3:38:10 PM
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE moved to report CSHB 97, Version 33-
LS0392\S, Dunmire, 4/25/23, out of committee with individual
recommendations and the accompanying fiscal notes.
REPRESENTATIVE CARRICK objected.
3:38:26 PM
A roll call vote was taken. Representatives Prax, Wright,
Saddler, Ruffridge, and Sumner voted in favor of moving HB 97
out of committee. Representatives Carrick and Fields voted
against it. Therefore, CSHB 97(L&C) was reported out of the
House Labor and Commerce Standing Committee by a vote of 5-2.
3:39:00 PM
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business before the committee, the House
Labor and Commerce Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at
[3:39 p.m.].
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| Amendment Packet for HB97.pdf |
HL&C 5/3/2023 3:15:00 PM |
HB 97 |
| HB97 CS (2).pdf |
HL&C 5/3/2023 3:15:00 PM |
HB 97 |